Doh.  You're right - i forgot about that possibility.  I'm so obsessed with 
IGHs, i completely overlooked front-shifting possibilities.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:02:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> It's an outlier as far as what most people are looking for in a frame like 
> this, but a member here many years ago put an old rear derailer (Shimano 
> 200GS I think) with a bolt on hanger on a Quickbeam so he could use a 
> wide-range double crank with fd derailer to give it a big top gear plus 
> hill climber granny (it was in a Rivendell Reader). 
>
> I'm guessing after all the 2-speed experiments Grant and Will have done 
> with chain tensioners they figured it couldn't hurt to have the option on 
> RoadUNO. 
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:33:14 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Makes sense, but it's still curious to me that they only used the Frank 
>> Jones Sr. dropout on that one model.  (Or, maybe a Rosco model, too?).  Im 
>> kind of suspecting that, with 3D design printing capabilities, it might be 
>> just as easy to come up with a new part if and when it is needed.
>>
>> I'm curious to see if this means there'll be some extra cable routing 
>> options on the Roaduno, or if that'll be left to clamp-on devices or zip 
>> ties, for someone who wished to use a derailleur.   Part of the beauty of a 
>> single-speed is the cleanness of not having unused stops.   On the other 
>> hand, I'm brazing on some extra housing stops to my Quickbeam - but for a 
>> Sturmey Archer 3-speed, not a derailleur.
>>
>> The "chain tensioner" feature doesn't make sense to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:38:07 AM UTC-7 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also v interested in RoadUno as "my last Riv"... 
>>>
>>> Spec'ing a hanger on these trackends means that Riv can use it for other 
>>> frames-- maybe they'll make a 135-spaced frame using these? Or someone will 
>>> request a custom? 
>>>
>>> That said, these are prototypes, so who knows what will show up in the 
>>> final form. 
>>>
>>> Looking forward to it!
>>>
>>> Anyone ride the prototypes RoadUno frames at RivHQ? How does it compare 
>>> to the Quickbeam? or present offerings? 
>>>
>>> shoji
>>> arlington ma
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:05:56 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
>>>> straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
>>>> your own cog set and there 'ya go. 
>>>>
>>>> So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single 
>>>> speed.... and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it 
>>>> can't/shouldn't have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to 
>>>> the 
>>>> versatility of the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the 
>>>> words/definitions/descriptions yank you're chain, so to speak. 
>>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for 
>>>>> S**ts and giggles, mostly.
>>>>>
>>>>> The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new 
>>>>> Roaduno. It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>
>>>>> (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own 
>>>>> several bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I 
>>>>> plan 
>>>>> to do everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of 
>>>>> dropout style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I 
>>>>> plan 
>>>>> to buy*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>> * But who am I fooling?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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