Olivier Chetelat’s photos of the proto-Appaloosa are located here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8418423327/in/photostream/
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:47:21 PM UTC-8 Chris L wrote: > The Mystery Bike/Appaloosa happened shortly after I discovered RBW, so > 2012'ish sounds about right. > > My memory is that Grant put out feelers for 10 people to buy a new bike, > completely sight unseen with no input (I don't remember if they were > allowed to choose color) into the bike. I don't recall if they were > completes or F/F/H, but $4000 sticks in my mind as being the cost. > > I have several really good photos that were posted of those bikes. > > [image: Joe Appaloosa (5).jpg] > > On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 1:14:05 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote: > >> Cheers for the feedback! Yeah, it was pretty wild to go from about a 3/10 >> to a 6/10 overnight on my Rivendell knowledge (still a good ways to go >> before I'm any sort of expert). Of course, my "knowledge" is limited to >> what I've found either in the reader or on the website for the most part, >> and there's a lot that's not really covered in those spots. >> >> I wasn't sure whether to consider the Road and Road Standard as different >> bikes, but I'll separate them out yeah. So then on the '95 lineup, was the >> Road a semi-custom while the AR and Mountain (Expedition? Should I include >> this alt name?) were set geometry? From memory the Road was the cheapest >> of the three so I was a bit confused by that all. >> >> I'll research more on the Gen 1 Appaloosa and Mystery Bike because I >> omitted them out of unawareness rather than conscious decision. I welcome >> (heck, I beg for) any insight or leads you may have in this regard. I >> think I'd also like to highlight in this timeline when models either >> underwent significant geometry changes or changed builders (AHH and >> Atlantis being obvious ones). This might turn into a full wiki, not sure >> yet, depends how bored I get this winter I guess! I have webhosting >> available, just need to sort some stuff out on that end. >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, 27 November 2021 at 10:58:35 UTC-8 iamkeith wrote: >> >>> Good effort. I bet that was fun, digesting so much at once. My comment >>> is that I don't think I'd discount the original Appaloosa or "mystery >>> bike," which is different from the current Appaloosa. I know it was 'sort >>> of' a prototype, but they were produced for specific, paying customers - >>> exactly the way early Roads, All Rounders and Mountains were - with no >>> design input from the buyers and - unlike those others - they DID have an >>> actual model name and head badge. I don't think I'd consider them >>> insignificant either, as they were the experience that led to the current >>> long chainstay, longer top tube models and the big swept-back bars like the >>> bosco. Kind of key to understanding the whole evolution. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 3:29:08 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote: >>> >>>> Nice Jason, and needed. The Road was followed quickly by the Road >>>> Standard, I think by '96. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 1:45:44 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>>> I spent the afternoon and evening trawling the full set of Riv >>>>> Readers, as well as old copies of the Rivendell website via >>>>> archive.org (it was veloworks.com/rivendell first, then it was >>>>> rivendellbicycles.com, then moved to the current home of rivbike.com >>>>> - I've perused probably upwards of 100's of snapshots of these sites >>>>> today). >>>>> >>>>> I don't have nearly as deep of experience with Rivendell as some of >>>>> you so I wanted to run this timeline by y'all and see if you can point >>>>> out >>>>> omissions or errors in my timeline. There are a lot of permutations of >>>>> some >>>>> of these models of course - I have pretty detailed notes about where each >>>>> model was made (including many which went through a few shops) in >>>>> addition >>>>> to the timeline, which I plan to include in whatever final form this >>>>> takes. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if you see something missing or incorrect! Note: I >>>>> left Protovelo's out because I'm not considering prototypes to be >>>>> relevant; >>>>> I might be missing some Rosco's but only the Bubbe 51 and Road 55.5 are >>>>> ones I have any info on. The step-thru version seems to have snuck past >>>>> my >>>>> research so far. >>>>> >>>>> [image: PXL_20211127_062150509.jpg] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fe7fc550-5696-431a-afc7-bf87b7e5efb5n%40googlegroups.com.
