Brian wrote  <<To Patrick's note on using fixed cogs on standard freewheel 
threading... aren't traditional cup/cone bottom bracket lockrings the same 
threading (for the most part) and is there any value in using one of those 
for extra security or is the same direction threading pretty much render 
them useless vs. the force that may be applied with firm backpedaling?  
This is more a curiosity whether anyone has had success or failure 
attempting this...>>

Yes, an english thread BB lockring will fit the freewheel hub threads(not 
old weird french thread obviously) and can be used for extra security 
against the cog loosening up from backpedaling. I used this setup on a 
fixed gear commuter for a number of years. It may not be enough for tricky 
skids and other nonsense those fixie kids are into these days, but for 
normal riding it is quite helpful.

Jim in Mpls


On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:54:19 AM UTC-6 Slin wrote:

> > I first tried a dedicated SS build on an old curbside rescue road bike 
> after a couple longer/hillier local rides where I just didn't shift and 
> realized those were some of my most enjoyable rides to date.
>
> This got me picturing Leah, aka BicycleBelleDingDing, with a third 
> Platypus, set up SS or fixed... and maybe bringing it on a club ride 
> sometime.
>
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:13:23 AM UTC-8 Coal Bee Rye Anne 
> wrote:
>
>> I've grown to appreciate both SS and fixed riding.  I had a whole 
>> separate draft reply started the other day on this thread but it kind of 
>> started going off the rails and deleted probably for the best.  I first 
>> tried a dedicated SS build on an old curbside rescue road bike after a 
>> couple longer/hillier local rides where I just didn't shift and realized 
>> those were some of my most enjoyable rides to date (~10yrs ago at the 
>> time.)  That rescued road bike was only my second bike and first actual 
>> road bike, complementing my old rigid 26" MTB.  I put enough work into it 
>> to get it rolling with the original 2x6 (stock 52-40 x 14-28) drivetrain 
>> and downtube shifters and enjoyed the luxury of bar/stem swapping with no 
>> shifters or excess cabling to address.  Those memorable no-shift, rolling, 
>> road rides I think I stayed in the 40x17 or 40x15, so when I later settled 
>> on a rebuild plan and drivetrain update for what was meant to remain a 
>> geared road bike I also took the opportunity to acquire a true SS rear 
>> wheel to ride while obtaining the rest of the build parts and/or 
>> cleaning/servicing whatever I'd reuse for the geared build.  There's a lot 
>> more to the story on this particular build, it's ultimate demise, and my 
>> personal evolution into DIY bike tinkering, finding my way here and to 
>> iBob, etc. which I will spare at this time, but that period of interim 
>> single speeding definitely converted me to a SS/fixed fan and I'd echo many 
>> comments and thoughts already added here and in Will's blog post.
>>
>> I now mix fixed and SS to a great degree and similar to Andrew, I also 
>> enjoy SS freewheeling on some of those longer/hillier rides (when time 
>> permits for more adventurous outings) and won't attempt to restate what he 
>> has already described so well.
>> One thing I will mention is when I did eventually try fixed for the first 
>> time, I found it to be equally exhilarating and nerve wracking, and kind of 
>> felt like re-learning how to ride a bike in a way, having never been 
>> directly attached to a drivetrain like that and unlearning decades of 
>> coasting habits!   I now really enjoy the feel of fixed for much of my 
>> local riding and expect to keep it in rotation with 2 different flip flop 
>> wheels on hand.
>>
>> To Patrick's note on using fixed cogs on standard freewheel threading... 
>> aren't traditional cup/cone bottom bracket lockrings the same threading 
>> (for the most part) and is there any value in using one of those for extra 
>> security or is the same direction threading pretty much render them useless 
>> vs. the force that may be applied with firm backpedaling?  This is more a 
>> curiosity whether anyone has had success or failure attempting this... and 
>> I forget the name for it but the chain wrap around the bottom bracket trick 
>> I also recall reading/viewing somewhere to tighten or help loosen stubborn 
>> fixed cogs with wheel mounted and bike flipped over... roto-fix or 
>> something, was that it?
>>
>> Brian Cole
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 3:16:08 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fixed gear riding keeps you on your toes especially around traffic. It's 
>>> a fantastic feeling having the bike instantly react with your fast twitch 
>>> muscles that keeps you really focused on the 'now.' I also think it makes 
>>> you a way better driver because it teaches you to scan your surroundings 
>>> efficiently. Single speed is much more relaxing and cathartic, and IMO 
>>> better suited for longer, hillier rides. My favorite things in life are the 
>>> ones you don't notice you're using and riding single speed puts a sorta 
>>> invisible shroud over your bike, leaving you to enjoy the scenery more and 
>>> think about your bike, less. 
>>>
>>> I'll definitely be going back and forth between 8 speed downtube 
>>> shifting and SS on my new Roadini thanks to Will's post...at least until my 
>>> knees start to complain. 
>>>
>>> Andrew 
>>> TN
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:02:46 PM UTC-6 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I rode fixed when I first got into cycling. Now 75% or so of my bikes 
>>>> are single speeds and I have no fixed gears. The main thing I like about 
>>>> SS 
>>>> vs fixed is being able to have my feet/cranks in the ideal position 
>>>> whenever I want. Also yeah, coasting rules.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:30:55 PM UTC-6 Wesley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>> You're missing out on coasting! I tried fixed-gear once and can't 
>>>>> imagine why it became a popular way to ride around 2010. Especially if 
>>>>> your 
>>>>> single speed is geared low for climbing, it is a relief to be able to 
>>>>> relax 
>>>>> on the descent.
>>>>> -Wes
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 9:11:03 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Ryan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very inspired my Will's Roadini build as well. I haven't done 
>>>>>> much SS riding, I'm more of a fixed or multi-gear rider. How do people 
>>>>>> feel 
>>>>>> about SS vs. fixed? Am I missing something by not riding SS some of the 
>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> JohnS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:57:35 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Will's post : 
>>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045&mc_eid=0074b52ae1
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 
>>>>>>> has 
>>>>>>> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS 
>>>>>>> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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