Thanks Jeremy and Aaron; both bars are in the running. I still favor the
Specialized Hover bar for its 15 mm rise, but any of these with 31.8 mm
clamp would work.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM <amillhe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Soma hwy 1 is another good (cheap) option in 26 and 31.8. I use them and
> like them but agree there is no place between the tops and hoods.
>
> Drop: 130mm
> Reach: 75mm
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso
>
> On Jan 11, 2023, at 18:08, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Salsa Cowbell is the shortest drop bar I've found (and used) at 68mm
> reach. Contemporary "short and shallow" type hooks. If you're used to any
> kind of real estate behind the brake lever, however, you might find these
> lacking. Fully on the brake lever hoods is about the only hand position
> they offer in that region. I recently used some for about a year before
> swapping for the VO "Nouveau Randonneur," which has significantly more room
> behind the hoods but is also longer reach. I liked the angle and position
> of the drops on the Cowbells better, though.
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:39:28 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Elizabeth; both those look very possible -- and yes, I should
>> have mentioned that I do want a 31.8mm clamp area.
>>
>> The Specialized website also showed these with a 15 mm rise: perhaps even
>> better:
>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/hover-alloy-handlebars--15mm-rise-plus-flare/p/155205?color=231077-155205&searchText=21018-3044
>>
>> I suppose all of these have 128 mm -- 130 mm drop; then the Hover with
>> the 15 mm rise is even better with a net 115 mm drop. Excellent.
>>
>> Nick: Thanks for referring the Fairweather, but the 2 Specialized bars
>> suit better.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:54 PM Elisabeth Sherwood <
>> elisabeth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As long as you don't mind a 31.8mm clamp area and a black finish, both
>>> Specialized's Shallow Bend handlebar and Zipp's 70 Ergo bars have a darn
>>> short reach and are super comfortable.  (Specialized has a round top; Zipp
>>> has a slightly flatter top...)  The Zipps have a 70mm reach; Specialized's
>>> is either the same, or 75mm...
>>>
>>> I'm linking to the base-price versions...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/expert-alloy-shallow-bend-handlebars/p/155634?color=230897-155634
>>>
>>> https://www.sram.com/en/zipp/models/hb-dbsc-7e-b2
>>>
>>> If you're looking for a silver finish and a 26.0 clamp area, the only
>>> thing I've found to be nice is the Soma Hwy One...  Would love to hear of
>>> others!
>>>
>>> Liz
>>> Washington, DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any bar that is not more than about 44 cm at hoods, has a
>>>> regular hook, gives more or less a regular hoods position, and that has a
>>>> very short reach? And a very shallow drop? I think of replacing the
>>>> cut-down Aherne MAP bar with something that gives me the ever comfortable
>>>> hood position but doesn't stretch me out much more than the Aherne bar. I
>>>> realize that I can buy a shorter stem too, but I want to know what the
>>>> shortest reach, etc., option/s is/are.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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