Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep. On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm <frah...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you! That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie for that and it’s a nicer build! On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:22:54 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset.
Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA.
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it.
Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA.
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:
Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though it's a fully built bike.
--Joyce On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie and it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different options for the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for these two sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations.
So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes? Sent from my iPhone I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.
I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick!
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale that I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm Susie from the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to pass the bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. Thanks, Paul
On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote:
All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color.
There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it sounds like they'll be discontinued all together.
Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the Gus not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. Also, I thought all Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not?
Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed models? Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but more and more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are looking attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail carbon fiber MTB that I've decided to part ways with.First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had lots of inspiration from the Blue Lug website. I have only rode it a few miles though and still trying to get the squeal out of the brakes. So far so fun!
![IMG_3291.JPG]() On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy!
Joe "I want one" Bernard
You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first good look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I anticipated - within 1/2 centimeter of my full suspension MTB (for sale:)). This beast should be a hoot. ![image0.jpeg]() ![image1.jpeg]() Sent from my iPhone I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is about an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit more clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike is high enough to pedal through anything these bikes can pedal through. I’m still getting used to the Susie as a mountain bike really. Chunky climbs are tough for me because if I get off the seat at all, instant loss of traction. Pedal strikes hasn’t been an issue at all though.
Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike has a pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable bikes. I rarely experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff that at my age I probably should not be doing!:) I just looked at available solutions & thought it might be beneficial to shorten the cranks on the Gus to approximate the clearance I enjoyed on the suspension bike. To do so would require a 550mm crank arm. To be honest, I had one particular & disconcerting pedal strike riding the Clem that really got my attention. This was a very familiar sweeping turn but off camber section that I always pedal through. The pedal dug into the uphill side of the bank & I nearly crashed. It was just so unexpected. I’ve accepted the notion that I may have to ride a bit slower & less aggressive than I am used to. But to the degree that I can minimize these things with the right choice now seems smart. Sent from my iPhone
I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for pedal strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into the camp of being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and being mindful of your own personal skill level. If you’re getting lots of strikes with say, a 170mm or 165mm crank, I wouldn’t be confident that going even shorter than that is going to necessarily solve your issue. Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So yes, I am trying to be mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on the Clem but I will likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching with keen interest the increasing availability of even shorter cranks. And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am looking forward to refining mine. Sent from my iPhone I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits other than pedal clearance.
Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours up for the first time and assuming you'll want more clearance? (Based perhaps on experience with other rivendell models.) My single conplaint about my Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high. Its not at all like my Clem or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other companies, that are all much lower.. I've probably learned to adjust my pedaling technique from previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires probably have something to do with it too but, in case you haven't done so, you should try it with normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. (*mine are 175)
On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go. Grant orginally said that it might only be the first batch that was fillet brazed, but didn't suggest that the models would just "disappear." Seems a shame to throw in the towel and not keep them going in some form, even if they're just tigged. That's how the Charlie Gallop - with similar top tube curve - will be built, right? With the Clem(entine) moving further away from its original mountain/hill bike concept, and with the Hunquapillar long gone, this just feels like a slot that needs filled to me. Sent from my iPhone Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it!
Joe Bernard
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at owning a beautiful ATB frameset.
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