What a great opportunity to spend time with your father-in-law!

The question that came to mind on seeing the photos of the current setup 
was where the sleeping bag would fit in with the new setup. I wouldn't want 
it taking up space inside either the trunk/saddle bag or front paniers. 

John's photos answered that question. 

For not much more money than the Zeitgeist but a lot more space, I'd add a 
Sackville trunk (whichever model best matches the distance between your 
saddle and rear rack) as John's setup shows.

-Dave

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:18:37 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sadly, I have never done any bicycle touring with racks and bags. However, 
> my suggestions would be go with Tubus racks: 
> https://www.tubus.com/en/products/
> or with Old Man Mountain: https://oldmanmountain.com/
> paired with Arkel panniers: https://arkel.ca/
>
> A long time ago, I was planning a bike tour with my daughter back in 2011. 
> However, she injured her knee and in turn we had to cancel the trip.  I 
> bought one set of  used Old Man Mountain racks and two used sets of Arkel 
> f/r panniers. The Arkel GT-52 for the rear and the Arkel GT-18 for the 
> front. I sold my f/r pair on eBay along time ago, However, I still have the 
> Old Man Mountain f/r racks and my daughter's pair of GT-52 panniers. I 
> washed them the other day. They look brand new. 
>
> I can proclaim that the Arkel panniers are very well made with lots of 
> compartments with heavy duty zippers and waterproof covers. 
>
> Unfortunately, I am unable to share any experience or knowledge of how my 
> Old Man Mountain racks hold up under load conditions. 
>
> Dreaming of one day bike camping with my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike,
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>

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