I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the "lots 
of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents and 
weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round trip 
ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.


On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam (Likes 
> To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on their 
> bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and the 
> stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should just 
> pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>
>> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
>> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
>> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small 
>> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
>> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
>>> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
>>>> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
>>>> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
>>>> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
>>>> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
>>>> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
>>>> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
>>>> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
>>>> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
>>>> forever and ever…
>>>> Happy bagging!
>>>> -Kai
>>>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>>>>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>
>>>>

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