Eric, thanks for your thoughts. I was guessing the frame tubes were about as thick as my Sam. I know there is a lot more to how a bike feels than purely frame tube size, but I'd be reluctant to go to the same tubing for this type of bike and my desired riding.
On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 4:01:04 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: > Hi John, > > I’m 6’3”, 180 pounds, and briefly had a 61cm Roadini. It has some weird > tapering to the tubes, but I think it was basically double OS on that size. > Maybe 28.6 tapering to 31.8 or something. It felt stiff and not > particularly responsive to me. It’s not like an old vintage road bike with > a 25.4mm top tube. > > My ‘84 Trek rides better, but doesn’t have the tire clearance or long > wheelbase of the Roadini. > > Eric > > > On Friday, May 19, 2023, John Bokman <jpbc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Piaw, thanks for the comments and pictures! Looks like you're having >> loads of fun. >> >> I would likely be running downtube shifters and a 2x with a long cage >> derailieur to get my low gears. You must be running, what, an 11x50? I'm >> sorry for the redundant question if it's listed on the website, but are >> these oversized tubes? They look to be 28.6cm at least? Yet you still feel >> it is a compliant frame? (No judgement, just trying to decipher.) >> >> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 5:35:17 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Here are some pictures of my Roadini: >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/XO7eDWt_RaCyVFynaZsftA.vhwY43mas9VqIf5gM0Swqo >>> >>> The bike as pictured weighs 24 pounds. It was 21 pounds with no toolbag >>> and lighter wheels and 30mm tires. It's possible to get lighter steel (or >>> titanium) bikes, but then the costs go up dramatically as you're likely to >>> have to go custom with correspondingly high wait times. >>> >>> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:26 PM John Bokman <jpbc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the review! As a daily drop-bar Sam rider, I'm well >>>> accustomed to the Rivendell ride. It's been a great bike for my uses: >>>> commuting, heavy loading. But, as a light (155# @ 6 foot tall), spinner, >>>> I >>>> wish for a bike that is lighter, less stiff, and more flexible to ride >>>> when >>>> I want to charge hills and generally explore at speed on day rides. I am >>>> interested in this frame for these reasons. But I hesitate because I'm not >>>> sure of the tubing specs. I don't want it to be too much bike for me! Sam >>>> is less than ideal on the rides I imagine doing on the Roadini. >>>> >>>> I'd love to see some photos of your machine if you have any available. >>>> >>>> John >>>> Portland, OR >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Max tire width according to Rivendell is 42mm. I don't like to push it >>>>> that close, so I think in practice I won't run anything more than 38mm >>>>> actual width. I have no TCO on the Roadini. The TCO exists on my custom >>>>> touring bike, which has a geometry copied from the 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 >>>>> with a longer chainstay and lower BB. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ian A <atte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Piaw, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your review. You mention fitting nominally 40mm wide >>>>>> tires and I would be curious to know what the maximum tire widths with >>>>>> and >>>>>> without fenders are? >>>>>> >>>>>> Your review in the final paragraph draws reference to toe-clip >>>>>> overlap (TCO) and I was wondering if you could expand on that. Do you >>>>>> experience TCO on the Roadini? I wasn't quite sure if you were >>>>>> referencing >>>>>> the Roadini or an idea for a custom in this snippet of the review " It >>>>>> gets rid of the toe clip overlap (which doesn't bother me but now that I >>>>>> know how to solve it without making a bike handle badly". >>>>>> >>>>>> IanA Alberta Canada >>>>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've now ridden my Roadini for 1000 miles, and I wrote my review: >>>>>>> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say that gravel bikes are >>>>>>> simply 1990s style mountain bikes with 700c wheels and 1x drivetrains. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/77-YZzm-Edk/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f8447a19-26b5-46d8-84cd-fb9fdd53a376n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f8447a19-26b5-46d8-84cd-fb9fdd53a376n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/77-YZzm-Edk/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/caa6b148-87b0-4e46-bd42-dec4fdd02cd6n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/caa6b148-87b0-4e46-bd42-dec4fdd02cd6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f1ed4f65-3d36-4207-b1a1-b0af149d1badn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f1ed4f65-3d36-4207-b1a1-b0af149d1badn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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