Hi,
Thank you Gary for the update on the July 7-9 meet-up in Asheville! 

As Gary said, we're planning a swap meet. We'll choose the location for 
that based on how many want to participate and how much stuff you want to 
bring. Could you let me know if you plan to do the swap meet and a ballpark 
idea of how much stuff you might bring?

Thanks and looking forward to seeing everyone in July, -- Carl
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:54:39 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi from Asheville!
>
> I just wanted to send a quick update about our Riv gathering July 7-9. 
>  You can see our planned activities below.
>
> Right now we’ve got 20 folks that have indicated that they are planning to 
> attend, and 6 that are maybe’s. Here’s the “yes” list I’ve got:
>
> *Yes (traveling to Asheville):*
>
> Brian plus 2 - Lexington, KY
> Jason - Indiana
> Laing - FL
> Pam - Charlotte, NC
> Frank - Richmond, VA
> Ken - VA
> Drew plus 1 - Atlanta, GA
> Eric - Indianapolis, IN
>
>
> *From Asheville:*
>
> Joel and Heather
> Theresa and Gary
> Ellen
> Carl
> Nic
> Steve
> Robert
>
> Please let me know if I’ve missed anyone - and also let me know if you’d 
> like to attend but haven’t yet responded.
>
> Some folks have arranged campground reservations (right at Bent Creek 
> where our Saturday morning ride will be) here:  
> https://adventurepisgah.com/lake-powhatan.  There are also tons of hotel 
> and VRBO options in Asheville but the summer gets very busy so book early.
>
> And a big thanks to the “Planning Committee” members - Carl, Nic, Joel, 
> Robert, Steve, and Ellen!  They are working on route details (map and GPS), 
> food and drink venues, a pavilion for the swap meet, and possibly (fingers 
> crossed) some ride swag (hat and/or a bandana).
>
> It should be a really fun weekend and we are looking forward to meeting 
> everyone, riding, and geeking out on all things Riv!
>
> Gary
>
> *Schedule for July 7-9:*
>
> *July 7* - Afternoon ride on Greenway (mostly paved with maybe a short 
> gravel section - very easy) followed by dinner/beer at one of the local 
> places (All Souls, New Belgium, White Duck Taco, Smokey Park, etc) all near 
> the Greenway with outdoor seating. 
>
> *July 8* - Morning ride at Bent Creek Forest near the NC Arboretum with 
> two options (all nontechnical gravel fire roads - an easier, shorter one 
> and a longer one that ideally could be done in a figure 8 so everyone stays 
> together for the first, easier part. Parking either at the Arboretum or by 
> the river (for those that don’t want to pay for Arboretum parking)
>
>            Afternoon short ride in conjunction with a swap meet, possibly 
> at Carrier Park near the Greenway (paved) under one of their pavilions (or 
> another similar location near the greenway). Other ideas are welcomed!
>
>
>    Dinner somewhere local (same possible options as for Friday)
>
> *July 9* - Morning ride near downtown (all paved very quiet neighborhood 
> roads) around Montford, Sunset, etc. with optional lunch afterwards
>
> *Please let me know *if you’d like to continue to get info about this, 
> and if you’re planning to attend. That will help us with planning and food 
> options...
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 4:29:47 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brokebike - You done good - it's a beautiful campground. My wife and I 
>> have been saying for years that if we didn't live only 10 miles from 
>> Powhatan it would be our favorite camping destination.
>>
>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 8:18:02 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I got a campsite reserved at Lake Powhatan for the Ky contingent. Looks 
>>> like a sweet spot! Thanks for all the information and organization! Looking 
>>> forward to this!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Laing,
>>>
>>> Bent Creek fire roads are gravel, but not too rough. Greenway is almost 
>>> all paved except for a short gravel portion that we may or may not do. 
>>> Neighborhood ride is all paved. Your custom with 650b x 48 would be perfect 
>>> (and I'd like to see it!).
>>> gary
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 5:55:58 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hostel booked. Need to decide on which Riv (or Rivs). Is it all paved 
>>>> and/or gravel? If so, I am thinking the Riv Custom with 650Bx48 Switchback 
>>>> Hills would be the choice, so I need to quit dithering on the 90 vs. 100 
>>>> stem and finally tape the handlebars.
>>>>
>>>> Laing
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 12:39:22 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a fun meeting yesterday with our local Riv riders and sketched 
>>>>> out a few more details about the upcoming Rivendell (unofficial) Meet up 
>>>>> this July. Here's what we've got so far:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Schedule for July 7-9:*
>>>>>
>>>>> *July 7* - Afternoon ride on Greenway followed by dinner/beer at one 
>>>>> of the local places (All Souls, New Belgium, White Duck Taco, Smokey 
>>>>> Park, 
>>>>> etc). 
>>>>>
>>>>> *July 8* - Morning ride at Bent Creek with two options - an easier, 
>>>>> shorter one and a longer one that ideally could be done in a figure 8 so 
>>>>> everyone stays together for the first, easier part. Parking either at the 
>>>>> Arboretum or by the river (for those that don’t want to pay for Arboretum 
>>>>> parking)
>>>>>
>>>>>            Afternoon short ride in conjunction with a swap meet, 
>>>>> possibly at Carrier Park under one of their pavilions (or another similar 
>>>>> location near the greenway). 
>>>>>
>>>>>    Dinner somewhere local (same possible options as for Friday)
>>>>>
>>>>> *July 9* - Morning ride around Montford, Sunset, etc. with optional 
>>>>> lunch afterwards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Please let me know *if you’d like to continue to get info about 
>>>>> this, and if you’re planning to attend. That will help us with planning 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> food options!  You can PM me with any interest or questions!
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 5:50:54 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pam,
>>>>>> Yes, July 7-9 is the weekend we are aiming for. Some of the asheville 
>>>>>> folks will be getting together next week to nail down some more details 
>>>>>> which we’ll post here. We’d talked about an easy gravel ride, a harder 
>>>>>> gravel option, a greenway ride, a quiet neighborhood ride, and lots of 
>>>>>> opportunities for craft beer stops and socializing. You’d also mentioned 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> possible “swap meet” and I think that is a great idea. Keep your eyes 
>>>>>> peeled here for more details to come sometime next week!
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:10:27 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Pam! Gary had posted earlier in this thread about making July 7-9 
>>>>>>> the weekend for this get-together. I think it's still in the planning 
>>>>>>> stages, but those were the dates discussed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 11:29:17 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are the dates?  I thought I'd seen June 7.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 11:05:16 AM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>> drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey All, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A (Bridgestone riding) friend and I will likely be making the trek 
>>>>>>>>> up from Atlanta for this! Excited to see all the bikes and meet 
>>>>>>>>> everyone. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Drew
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:36:02 PM UTC-4 James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Curious to be in the loop as well.  I'm in Asheville but just 
>>>>>>>>>> unsure if I'll be able to make the dates.  If I can, I will!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:55:58 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for letting us know you might be interested in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Asheville weekend ride in July. I'll be starting to actually plan 
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in 
>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of weeks with some other local Riv owners  and will 
>>>>>>>>>>> definitely 
>>>>>>>>>>> keep you in the loop.
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 5:17:15 PM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>>>>> mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to know more about Asheville area routes, once you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> folks do this.  I was down there at the beginning of April for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> days and definitely need to go back.  (I just wish it wasn't such 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> looooooong drive from northern NJ.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:54:11 AM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>>>>>> frank.b...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all - I have been quietly tracking this conversation and am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at my work & life calendars to see if it is a feasible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trip for me. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be traveling from Richmond, VA and appreciate all the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort to get this going!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Frank 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:48:02 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pam! So glad you’re interested and hope you can make it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We will certainly have lots of options ride-wise but haven’t 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nailed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything down yet. Certainly lots of road and greenway options. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravel fire roads are pretty mellow too. And we’ll definitely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have time 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built in pre and post ride for socializing, and I love your idea 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swap/sale/trade opportunity. Maybe we could even let folks post 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are thinking about bringing to make it more interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 12:03:21 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to try to come.  I'd like roads.  What mileage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options are we thinking about?  Obviously I would like plenty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of time to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see all the bikes and meet all the owners so plenty of stops 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along the way 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some time at the beginning and end of the rides would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great.  Want 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to bring stuff to swap/sell/trade?  Want to have anything else 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like seeing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gear such as favorite bags, tents, accoutrements....?  Let me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can help.  Let me know if anyone wants to carpool from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlotte or stop 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through on the way there or back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 1:46:14 PM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary! I’m definitely free then. I’ll see if I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> round up a few other Riv riders here in Kentucky!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Jason D <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in...@jasonduffield.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Gary! This sounds like an awesome time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi from Asheville,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wanted to let folks know that we've currently got 5-8 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local Riv riders and 3+ (thanks Laing, Brian, Jason, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe George for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> letting me know) that have said they'd be able to make the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend of July 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7-9 work for them, so let's make that the official date for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our Asheville 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet up. If anyone else would like to join us please let me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know! Also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to answer any questions if you're iffy or want more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:56:46 AM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the clarification, Gary! Those potential dates 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work better for me, personally. I have no plans for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month of July, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am freed up after Sept. 10th for some bike fun. Hoping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> materialize for these new dates!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:41:18 AM UTC-4 Gary L 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's correct - the May 12-14 date didn't work out so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the July/Sept dates were thrown out to see if more folks 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> join.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 10:41:19 AM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, just to get this straight... did the previously 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed weekend of May 12-14th not work well enough for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone? I was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to be free that weekend, but if it's looking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a July date 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be better for more people, then I may just be able 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 3:06:19 PM UTC-4 Gary L 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not going into TN. We were talking about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding locally at Bent Creek and the WNC Arboretum, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the River Arts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District bike path, and maybe a low traffic road ride 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around Montford and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> North Asheville. With plenty of opportunities for brewery 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refreshments/food 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during or after the rides.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 3:00:03 PM UTC-4 George 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you all call for a Riv ride "in" Asheville do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean going over to ride the loop at Cades Cove in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tennessee by any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?  Just curious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:07:20 AM UTC-5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lconley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be in North Carolina from July 1 thru July 9 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The weekend before thru the weekend after July 4. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be the best 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was some talk about a Riv ride in Asheville 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this spring but a May date won't work for lots of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people. If there's still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any interest in a meetup, how would a July or mid-Sept 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend work for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks?  If there's enough people interested I would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to try to nail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down a date for whatever month seems to work for most 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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