| They are, and in the myriad responses I’ve gotten (many private and some on Instagram) it has been explained to me that if I want to run 48s I have two options: 1. Run tubeless but never more than 30 psi. Or, use tubes. Or thirdly, but new wheels.
Did I misunderstand? L Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2023, at 6:22 AM, Johnny Alien <johnny.alien...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was under the understanding that the current Pacenti Brevet rims are tubeless ready.
https://pacenticycledesign.com/collections/aluminium-rims-gravel-cross/products/brevet-rim-650b-1
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:38:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
What Gil says resonates with me. I love how you love a Clem! All those attributes truly do make the Clem a gem. I have favored those Platys as of late, but I am going back to Clem-loving again soon. We are traveling right now, but when I get back I’m heading to the bike shop to see about putting 48s on my Clem if the Pacenti Brevet rims will take them. Sounds like if they aren’t tubeless, it’s ok. We’ll see. The fact that the OP’s query has already been thoroughly dealt with won’t dissuade me from chiming in on a subject near and dear (besides, if posters were not able to beat dead horses this forum would have dissolved years ago). I own a Clem and ride off road, gravel/trail riding is the fourth most favorite thing I do in life. I highly encourage others to do it on a Clem. Opinion, highly subjective, yes, but I do have a kind of data point. Usually I’m solo but last summer I joined a group ride (my daughter said I needed to make new friends). This served as a good barometer of how Clem compared with other “gravel” bikes. My inaugural ride was 19 miles moving at a good clip, mostly off-road at the end of which another rider smiled and said “You just ride that thing don’t you“. I translated that to, “turns out that’s a nice bicycle and my unspoken questioning of its appropriateness for this ride was unfounded, my apologies“. Worth noting, unlike Kai’s tough looking Clem mine is a Riv blue step thru and gets no respect. The qualities that make the Clem a good gravel bike are those that make it a good bike period: bulletproof frame, long wheel base, stable handling, gearing that gets you over/through anything you have any business being on, fits most any tire and uber comfortable. I might add that part of that comfort comes from the bosco bars – Clems suspension system –a swept back pliant trail chatter sponge that doesn’t compromise control. So resist the temptation to immediately switch em out for off-road. Happy trails.
Gil Gloucester On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 1:30:01 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
Kai,
My compliments on your Clem! Your portfolio of images really displays the Clems versatility, and I might add, your creativity. An ideal bike for NY/Brooklyn terrain. The adjustable bottom bracket is pretty cool too:-)
Best, Rich in ATL
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
Many photos of many states of Clem H, all gravel ready- https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7-Kai On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:06:54 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
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This thread needs less opinions and more inpirational photos of Gravel Clems. Just my opinion. :P
I'm not going to provide specific tire recommendations, but I ride "gravel" and single-track quiet a bit on my Roadini. I still remember that time in the 1990s when I was riding with Bridgestone-sponsored cyclist Eric House, and we all showed up in the East Bay proud of ourselves for riding road bikes on a Grant ride. Grant showed up on a fixie with 35mm tires and proceeded to outride us all on and off road.
A few principles: - The lighter the rider, the smaller the tire you can get away with. At 140 pounds, I can ride fire roads with 25mm tires (or even 23, back when Michelin 23s were $10/pop!)
- Tread or no tread doesn't matter as much as rider skill and speed.
- Rider skill cannot be disentangled from bike fit. If the bike doesn't fit, you will find stuff scary that you can actually ride if the bike fit. I once accidentally raised my seat too high and discovered that stuff I could easily ride suddenly became hard!
- The longer the ride and the steeper the climb, the more important weight becomes. I can ride big heavy tires if I'm only going to go downhill because a car did most of the work. But if I have to do a lot of climbing (some of which turns into hiking inevitably if you ride in mountainous areas), the lighter the bike the better off you are.
- You can drop tire pressure far more than most tire pressure calculators will tell you to. I can run 700x40 tires measuring 38mm at 25psi (the Rene Herse calculator will recommend 33psi) when I'm riding off pavement. On the pavement that same pressure will feel inefficient. I go so far as to carry a pressure gauge to drop tire pressure at the trail head and pump up the tires when I transition off a dirt descent onto pavement for the ride home.
- Bigger tires affect handling - one reason I don't ride with as big a tire as I can get away with is that you lose some agility. Frequently I find that being able to steer precisely and quickly offsets the inability to plow through some obstacle head on.
What I do notice is that most people don't like to underbike. They will make comments that I won't be able to do a ride on my 25mm tires and then be all surprised when I show up and do the ride. But when I'm touring I'm not going to bring 3 different bikes, so I just push the limits and go slower and occasionally depend on pulling a spare tire out of my saddle bag if a tire were to shred during a tour (which can happen even if you're not riding off pavement).
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