Excellent point, Joe! Thanks. I happen to have a 2016 Appaloosa 51 to 
compare.  🙂  

By my measurements, the effective top tube center to center are Appaloosa 
57 and Bubbe 58.5. Both fit me at 5’7” and an 82 PBH. The Bubbe is a 
slightly bigger, better fit for me.  I like the zippy feel of the 700c 
wheels and it feels lighter (haven’t weighed them — just an impression). 
Yet, I love the Appaloosa for its beautiful lugs and 650B wheel size. I put 
a picture of them next to each other 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/71ufmCDJJVePieJv9> in the photo album. 

This all reinforces to me that I am not actually super motivated to sell 
the Bubbe. It is a great bike — pretty and versatile. I think I will make a 
separate listing for my 52 Clem H and see if that one generates any 
interest. . . 

   
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 11:54:26 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Hi Val, 
>
> I'm thinking the list will want to know how to size this (whether it's a 
> more Roadini or Appaloosa 51cm). Can you tell us the effective toptube? 
>
> Holy moly that's a pretty bike! ❤️
>
> Joe Bernard 🙋‍♂️
>
> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 11:42:43 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> In an ongoing effort to condense my bike collection to the bikes I ride 
>> most often, I am offering for sale my 2016 Waterford-made Rosco Bubbe in 
>> size 51 with the handy lift-a-tube frame. The candy apple red color, 
>> decals, and head-badge are beautiful. It is a surprisingly zippy, 
>> nimble-feeling bike. It gets up to cruising speed very quickly. I used it 
>> as an errand/grocery bike and the frame has some abrasions from locking it 
>> up around town. Low mileage. 
>>
>> Parts list below. Lots of pictures here 
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/zBEyEpRnMem4m8oh7>. The saddle height in the 
>> pics is 71.
>>
>> You can see in the pics that I originally had it configured with a 
>> Copenhagen Wheel but ended up giving that up in favor of regular wheels. I 
>> am offering it with 700x42 tires on it. It can easily fit up to 50s. My 
>> recollection in trying to fit 54s was that the rear tire had sufficient 
>> clearance in the brake area but not where the tire approached the frame 
>> underneath. I don’t recall whether the chain stay width or length was 
>> inadequate. Perhaps both. 700x50s fit great and were super fun.
>>
>> I am happy to sell it either as frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket for 
>> $1100 or for $2100 complete as shown. If you want only a partial build, 
>> feel free to make an offer. I will pay to have it professionally packed and 
>> buyer pays for BikeFlights shipping. Happy to split paypal fees.  Local 
>> pick-up in/near Boulder CO available too.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20230618_203026524.jpg]
>>
>> Frame/Fork: Rosco Bubbe 51
>>
>> Handlebars: Albatross HT-Aluminum with Misha cork grips
>>
>> Stem: Nitto 10cm
>>
>> Shifters: Silver bar-end with pods
>>
>> Brake levers: Tektro v-brakes
>>
>> Seatpost – no name, supplied by Riv with build
>>
>> Front wheel: Velocity Atlas 36h with Shimano Deore hub
>>
>> Rear wheel: Velocity Nobs 36h with Deore XT hub (135 spacing)
>>
>> Brakes: Shimano Deore v-brakes
>>
>> Tires: Soma Shikoro 700x42 (very low mileage)
>>
>> Front derailleur: Shimano Sora
>>
>> Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore
>>
>> Crank: Silver 170 with chain guard/40/26
>>
>> Cassette: 10 speed 12-34
>>
>> Saddle and Pedals: Clem stock – optional / no charge 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Val in Boulder CO
>>
>

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