Additional information to be added to my long torso, I have short limbs.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 4:25:23 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> Very well said, Laing. I absolutely agree with you.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA 
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 12:49 PM lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:
>
>> Then there are also those with really, really long torsos, that need a 
>> long stem *and* lots of setback on the seatpost; or a custom frame.
>> Also remember that a Brooks saddle sometimes needs a longer setback 
>> seatpost to put you in the same location relative to the pedals as another 
>> type of saddle on a normal seatpost; no longer stem will help that.
>>
>> Laing 
>>
>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> + another for Garth's point (and many others make it too, including PJW 
>>> in his very good article on bike fitting) that you first set up your saddle 
>>> in relation to the cranks in order to get both good "balance" (with 
>>> sufficient setback that your torso muscles support the torso's weight, and 
>>> so that this support is not left to hands and arms and shoulders), and good 
>>> power or torque on the pedals (too far forward and you lose power, IME -- 
>>> Grant cured me of an all-the-way forward saddle, long story, by saying, 
>>> "move your saddle back and down").
>>>
>>> And of course all rules are merely starting points.
>>>
>>> No setback seatposts make sense on a bike like this; you even see 
>>> seatposts with forward "setback" or perhaps "set-forward," but look at 
>>> those seat tube angles!
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:24 PM Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps another bit of information to muddy the waters is the Analog 
>>>> Cycles perspective that straight (no setback) seatposts make no sense, 
>>>> except for frames (like theirs) that have relatively slack seat tubes. 
>>>> Like 
>>>> our Riv’s.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
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