That sounds awesome, I’ll add that to my list. I appreciate it Josh! I was just planning to bike around in the city but having some dedicated bike trails to cruise on will be great.

On Jul 19, 2023, at 8:43 PM, Josh C <getjoshchamb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Al, 

I do think you could get to the Gaston section of the trial, from I-69, in about 10-15 minutes. That's the way I got there for the first ride. Gaston to Losantville is pretty nice. The Monon trail in Indianapolis is a nice ride. More populated and less rural, obviously, but it's a nice trail that runs about 26 miles from downtown Indy up to Sheridan. When you get back to the southern end you can pop into the Garage food hall for some food and drink. 

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:54:18 PM UTC-4 Al wrote:
Thanks George, I appreciate the detailed explanation. I’ll plan on going through Muncie.

Josh, I’m staying in Indianapolis.

On Jul 19, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Josh C <getjosh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Al, 

What part of the state are you staying in, Indianapolis? 

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:31:28 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
Brokebike, 
I found it to be quite shaded. Gaston to Losantville was very shaded. Some open areas near Losantville, but again down toward Richmond was quite shaded. It makes for a nice ride in the heat. 

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:00:10 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
My buddy Huston and I rode the Cardinal Greenway back in the pre-Pandemic days. We rode from Richmond to Losantville, and then took rural roads over to Summit Lake State Park, where we camped for the night. It was a very well manicured trail, but I don't recall there being much shade back then. Maybe it has grown up a bit more since then. It was mostly corn on one side, soybeans on the other the whole way. I'd like to go back and explore more of the upper section of it.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 10:27 PM Steve <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
George, I went to school at BSU in the '70s as well.   Wound up in Muncie for nearly the entire decade.  Had some good times riding the backroads in that area. Some of it was on an old canti-framed Schwinn I paid $20 for and built up as a "Little 500" racer; drop bars, coaster brake, and a rattle can orange paint job.

 I remember those long trains pulling coal cars - and getting caught at the crossings as they rumbled by. I had no idea though that they were part of the whole steel industry centered around Gary. Thanks for sharing a bit of the history of the Cardinal. It made me realize that rail trails all have a backstory rooted in a changing economy. Interesting!. 
On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:48:12 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
I grew up in Richmond and am well aware that the Cardinal Greenway Trail is a rails-to-trails conversion of the old C&O Railroad that used to haul long coal trains from the mines in SE Kentucky and West Virginia up to the steel mills along the Southwestern Lake Michigan shore.  I attended college at Ball State University in Muncie during the early 70's and often saw those freights along U.S. 35 as I drove that way many times.  But things have changed significantly over the past 4 to 5 decades.  C&O abandoned that stretch of rail once the steel mill industry moved largely off-shore and the high sulfur coal from those mines was replaced by coal from Western mines that was closer to the surface and had lower sulfur content.  Hence, the abandoned railway is now the Cardinal Greenway.  I haven't lived there in over 50 years and have never ridden the new trail.  As I understand it, though, there are certain sections where some land owners have claimed rights from the railroad right-of-way and have caused trail users to detour onto sections of county roads for brief stretches.  This is particularly true once one gets North of Muncie. One of these days I may have to drive down there and ride that trail just for the nostalgia.

On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:01:17 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
My first attempt at this. The site is a bit old tech. It kept telling me that my post was too long, so I broke it up. May have been the pic size. Sorry for the typo's. I think I got the point across at least. 

On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:26:35 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
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On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:23:16 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
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Both of these rides were accomplished on my Atlantis, a 2008 Toyo 61 CM for those that want details. And yes, that’s a sign telling you not to drive your horse and buggy on the trail.
On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:20:20 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
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On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:18:08 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
So, I went back and wrote the southern portion today. I drove out to Richmond, IN, about an hour or so from Indianapolis on the Ohio/Indiana line, and headed north a little past, Losantville, IN for a total of about 60 miles. It was a pleasant ride with at least 3/4 being in the shade of trees along the old Cardinal. I just thought I’d share.

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