My personal solution was to get a tandem (really, a triplet/quad that 
converts). The kids love it, and we just rolled over 13k miles on it since 
getting it 8 years ago. Other parents will tell me that my kids are 
special, and that their kids couldn't stay on a bike that long. I would 
take their kids on the tandem and it turns out that their kids had no 
problem biking for as long as mine. It's just that most parents don't want 
to do the work. Yes, it's expensive (though not that expensive if you buy 
used), but in exchange you get kids that would rather go on a bike tour 
than disneyland.

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:49:29 AM UTC-7 Drw wrote:

> For the last 4 years I've been carrying my kid and all of our family's 
> gear on a rosco bubbe mountain step-thru with crust clydesdale fork. [image: 
> IMG_2875.jpg]
> Overall, it's been great, but as he gets bigger, having that amount of 
> weight, that high up, plus a decent load up front is starting to feel 
> really wiggly. I had early on thought that my son would be riding a bike 
> well enough to transition to one of those tag a long attachments like the 
> burley piccolo, but he has some sensory issues with balance and gross motor 
> that will probably make that not a real possibility before he is big enough 
> to just be riding fully on his own. 
>
> So, I'm looking for a compact cargo bike with the following requirements. 
> -Non electric
> -Footprint no bigger than a standard bike 
> -Platform/bench rear seat for kids
> -Some front cargo capability
> -uses deraillers (though i could be swayed to an IGH)
>
> Right now I am mostly looking at the bike friday haul-a-day elite 
> <https://bikefriday.com/product/bike-friday-haul-a-day-elite-cargo-bike/>and 
> the tern short haul D8 
> <https://www.ternbicycles.com/us/bikes/471/short-haul-d8>. Both have pros 
> and cons. I am open to any other cool options. And any thoughts about the 
> above models would be appreciated as well. 
>
> Thanks,
> Drew
>
>

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