I'm going to share my opinion on this but it is just that....my opinion. 
With that caveat in mind here is how I arrived at the conclusion not to buy 
a Roadini. My first Rivendell, a Sam Hillborne, is now my only Riv in the 
current stable. This is my absolute favorite bike in the world. I have done 
so much on this bike that it is now part of my life story. It was my first 
entry into the "Just Ride" mentality. It broke me out of the mold and 
allowed me to experience the joy of being an Unracer. I've configured it 
multiple ways. I've camped with it, I've climbed some of the toughest 
mountain in Vermont with it, I've explored some of the best gravel roads 
the Northeast has to offer. It has done everything well and has never let 
me down. However, in my experience the one thing the Sam does not do well 
is to hang with the fast guys on my weekend group ride. The bike is simply 
not optimized for that. All of that said, I have never loved a bike. more 
then I love my Sam Hillborne. I will never part with it. 

When I first saw the photos of the Sergio's green Roadini Riv's marketing 
strategy worked exactly as it was designed to do. Convince me that I needed 
to have one. I have other bikes that do not fit the Rivendell ethos. I have 
a carbon fiber road bike with carbon wheels, hydraulic disc brakes and 
electronic shifting. The antithesis of what Riv promotes. Yet this bike 
still has its purpose that suits my riding needs/desires.  If I want to go 
ride with my fellow middle age men in Lycra on a weekend go fast ride I'm 
going to take the carbon bike. I want this bike in my stable but there is 
no soulful connection to this carbon machine.  Nothing like my love for the 
Sam.  

The Roadini was going to scratch an itch that I had to build up a classic 
steel frame with rim brakes and mechanical brifters. I wanted Campagnolo 
parts because I've never owned a bike with Campy. The vision I had for the 
Roadini was to take it on my weekend group ride with my fellow MAMIL 
friends. Sure I could have done this on a Roadini but I question if I would 
have been happy with it.  I had doubts that the geometry would be too 
upright and the chainstays too long. I simply had a hunch that a Roadini 
would not meet my expectation of having the snappy road feel that I look 
for in a bike like this. I was afraid it would feel dull and sluggish. 

Everyone's needs will be different. I've had a Appaloosa and a Clem H. 
Regret selling the Appaloosa all the time but don't regret letting going of 
the Clem H. 

A Roadini would be a great bike for someone under the right circumstances. 
Compared to anything that Surly makes I'd say it would be a marked 
improvement. 

As for me I ultimately bought a used steel Serotta frame in mint condition 
that I will build up with Campy parts. I will scratch the itch that I had 
for a classic rim brake road bike with mechanical shifting but this time it 
won't be another Riv. 


On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:03:15 AM UTC-4 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> Have you considered anything from Crust? I too am interested in a Roadini 
> (Although I dont plan to get one since I just built a Sam and have a 
> Waterford) but I wonder if the Riv philosophy and tubing really is the best 
> choice for a light feeling road bike. Mostly I'm refrrring to the tubing.
>
> My Sam is probably my favorite bike I've owned.
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:40 AM UTC-4 R. Scott Lake wrote:
>
>> Intrigued by the Roadini release tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>    - Current stable is 61cm Cheviot for commutes, groceries- my favorite 
>>    ride.
>>    - I have.a relatively new 58 Surly Straggler that I am using as my 
>>    road bike.
>>    - Has always felt a bit aggressive. Get a little sore and numb after 
>>    a while.
>>    - 90% of my riding is on flat, SC Lowcountry roads- 10-20 miles at a 
>>    clip.
>>    - 55 years old. PBH=89, 6' 175#
>>
>>
>> Question is whether I will notice a large comfort difference in Roadini 
>> compared to current Straggler.
>>
>> Wish I could do a test ride.
>>
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>
>>

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