I draw the line at winter riding where salt is used. Last year I used a converted 93 Rockhopper as my winter ride (IGH, coaster brake, studded tires) and on "nice" days, i.e. dry roads, I used my Bruce Gordon BLT (Taiwan model). Afterwards I cleaned and reassembled the rear derailleur -- from maybe a dozen trips on decent days, it was a rusty, nasty mess, and so were a number of other parts.
>From now on, only beater bikes in the salt months for me. The rest of the year, anything goes, that's why I own bikes. I think of scratches as battle scars, to be worn proudly. But salt is just wrong. cheers -mathias On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:22:32 AM UTC-4 daniell...@gmail.com wrote: > Joyce, thank you for your kind words and for sharing that story! It > immediately reminded me of a quote from a Zen master that I've spent time > reflecting on, but never around my bike until now: > > Die while you are alive, and be absolutely dead. Then do whatever you > want: it's all good. > > Your brother sounds like he's got this whole liberation thing down :))) > > Yours in RivSister solidarity, > Danielle > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote: > >> Danielle, >> Thanks for sharing your story. It's such a pleasure to read a well >> written tale and I shuddered at the description of your pristine Cheviot >> losing the battle with concrete. I'm looking forward to the images of >> diaper swaddling! >> >> Your story reminded me of some advice my older brother gave my younger >> brother. Both of them avid outdoorsy hunters/fishers/campers/boaters, they >> drive pick-ups for their adventures. Younger bro gets a brand new Ford and >> doesn't want to drive a particular road because his new baby is going to >> get scratched. Older bro says, "Find a track that is overgrown with brush >> and drive your truck through it. It will get scratched up and you'll never >> have to worry about it again." So much for precious truck finishes! (And >> advice from older brothers...ha!) >> >> Please keep posting and sharing your new bike decisions & adventures! >> >> RivSisters, >> --Joyce (who has accepted the beausage on Clem, but is still cringing at >> new scratches on Platy) >> >> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:47:43 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses! >>> >>> @Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about the >>> Albastache for months. I do like the reach on it and the more assertive set >>> up (why does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me biking??). >>> What ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I put inverse levers >>> on the Porteur and liked having my hand at the levers for my mostly city >>> riding through traffic. Now you've got me thinking about the Albatross >>> upside down :) >>> >>> @Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it happened I >>> didn't even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd beat himself up if he >>> knew what happened in a moment of carelessness. We had a riding date out to >>> dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer that I shared this story that >>> he of course didn't remember, having never been told. He asked me to show >>> him my post...I declined :p >>> >>> @Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried both! I'm >>> also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am dreaming up elaborate >>> bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still thinking I might want to >>> shave off a bit the swept back length if it wouldn't compromise anything >>> >>> @Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially thinking of >>> anytime it's put on the rack to accompany us on vacation (looking at you >>> @Leah and your upcoming trip). Maybe it'll only be the Chev that rides the >>> rack. Maybe I'll just accept that inevitable chips and scratches that are >>> sure to come, like the scars we wear having lived. Or maybe I'll just >>> gather all our old cloth diapers and swaddle it for the ride... >>> >>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:08:46 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I was reminded of you guys today when I was looking at my bike. My most >>>> precious raspberry one is definitely showing minor signs of use. It’s >>>> dirty. Gritty, even. And the Platypus decal is marred (just a tiny bit) >>>> and >>>> I’m seeing small paint chips begin to form. >>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg] >>>> >>>> I am (unexpectedly) comforted by this, because it means that the bike >>>> is having adventures and serving its purpose. I am going to be putting 4 >>>> bikes on my rack for a bike overnight I’m doing with the women of my bike >>>> club. I am rather nervous about the jostling and subsequent paint damage >>>> that could occur, but I’ve decided it’s worth the risk to have the >>>> experience of a real bike adventure. >>>> >>>> I was grinning to myself remembering my old Betty, the first “nice” >>>> bike I ever had, and how I put all kinds of marks on it and was totally >>>> unbothered. I didn’t know it was tragic to mark up your bike at the time. >>>> Working on getting back to that! >>>> >>>> I know these imperfections are pretty minor, but hey, it’s progress in >>>> the life of this bike! >>>> Leah >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Danielle, >>>> >>>> As a suggestion in protecting your new Sergio Green Roadini bicycle, >>>> you might want to use some this helicopter tape. I bought some with plenty >>>> left over from my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike in protecting her against the >>>> elements. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QC6H90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 >>>> >>>> BTW... I love your storytelling, as well. >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel >>>> Yelm, WA. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:02:44 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Danielle I have used both the loscos and the chocos. There is not a >>>>> huge difference to be honest but if you are OK with the narrow width I >>>>> can >>>>> say that I don't think there is a handlebar on the planet that is better >>>>> looking than the losco bar. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:55:48 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> …Or he’d surely be out on the street, looking for cover. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jock >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:43 PM John Dewey <john...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Danielle, you have the patience of a saint. Your partner is lucky >>>>>>> man, truly living a charmed life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jock >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:51 PM danielle da cruz < >>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This story hit me in the worst way. Six years ago for a milestone >>>>>>>> birthday I decided to purchase a beautiful orange Cheviot from Riv. >>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>> jumped on one that was too large for me that our local bike shop had >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> display and from that moment on could think of nothing else. I felt >>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>> bird taking flight on that bike, so we placed the order for my size >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> waited for delivery. I got notice when it arrived and raced home to >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> that my ever-helpful partner had opened the box and was already >>>>>>>> assembling >>>>>>>> it (you know where this is going)... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On our concrete walkway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With the frame laying on the bare ground, scratching along as he >>>>>>>> moved it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Taking a bite out of "v" in the Cheviot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Instant decal damage on day one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scratched down to the steel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I feel sick to my stomach even thinking about it again. And so from >>>>>>>> moment one it was no longer pristine. Very special of course, but not >>>>>>>> entirely precious and future scrapes have gone down easier. Now I have >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> finger on the button again, ready for a Sergio Green Roadini this >>>>>>>> Thursday. >>>>>>>> I plan to take D(elivery) Day off from work and be sure my man with a >>>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>> is out of the house :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Chev decal.jpeg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:15:59 PM UTC-4 Mojo wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the winter of 2011, I bought a Mark- Nobilette-built Legolas. >>>>>>>>> It was serious overlap with my 2001 custom Riv Road and 2005 >>>>>>>>> Quickbeam. I >>>>>>>>> justified it as my mixed-surface, foul-weather, fine-riding bike. I >>>>>>>>> built >>>>>>>>> it up during that winter with pleasing-to-me parts including a >>>>>>>>> Ritchey >>>>>>>>> Logic crank and a Shimergo drive train (Campy 11-spd Chorus brifters >>>>>>>>> mated >>>>>>>>> to Shimano 9 speed XT derailers (12-36 to 34/46 gearing)). My very >>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>> ride, I took it out to the nearby irrigation ditch to snap a photo >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> some mountains in the background. I leaned it up against a concrete >>>>>>>>> irrigation valve and before I could snap a pic my sparkling new >>>>>>>>> Legolas >>>>>>>>> slid down the edge of the concrete and into the ditch. The top tube >>>>>>>>> scratches were horrible. But those scratches freed me and the >>>>>>>>> Legolas. I've >>>>>>>>> ridden it plenty on paved roads in nice weather, but also without >>>>>>>>> hesitation in gravel, snow, mud mixed with cow scat, thunderstorms >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> small hail. Big scratches for vanity instead of adventure was quite >>>>>>>>> upsetting, but it has worked out for me and this fine bike. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Joe in GJT CO >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8fbbb4a7-fe1b-43a5-99ef-70f7edc8c40bn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8fbbb4a7-fe1b-43a5-99ef-70f7edc8c40bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/fBVXpMqGxr8/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67303a21-307a-41c4-94f4-f9704cd80615n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67303a21-307a-41c4-94f4-f9704cd80615n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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