Justin...not a Platy but would the recently posted 60cm Chev work? 60 Cheviot frame in Austin
https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/austin-60cm-rivendell-cheviot-frame/7636520917.html Reply all Reply to author Forward On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 6:28:51 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > @Doug - I share with you in very similar view points, regarding riding my > Clem, too. I ride solo. I am not in a big hurry to get where I am going. I > enjoy the ride. Yes, it is a heavy bike. I do not know how much it weighs. > However, I am not bothered by the weight, because of it is truly the most > comfortable bicycle for me as a senior cyclist; an upright riding position, > low gears, a long wheelbase, stable handling and the Bosco bars are most > ideal. > > For the record, I have no other experience riding any other Rivendell > bicycles to compare my Clem with. I do not feel the need to, because my > Clem suits my needs extraordinarily well. > Kim Hetzel > Yelm, WA. > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:58:55 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > >> Speed is not an issue for me and my ole Clem as I ride almost exclusively >> solo. My question about Clem/Platypus was again in jest. Leah has ridden >> both more than most and so her opinion and comparison has credibility to >> me. That being said, I like the style of the Clem better which is obviously >> the most subjective take one can make between two bicycles. Me and ole Clem >> just mosey down the road and whatever speed is comfortable and have a jolly >> ole time doing it. >> Doug >> >> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> Johnny, >>> >>> Her Clem and Platypus (the one she uses on club rides) have similar >>> builds (including the wheelsets) so you can take that out of the equation. >>> The frames are not the same, Platy is a lighter-tubed pavement-oriented >>> bike patterned after the Sam Hillborne. I'm quite sure she's right that >>> head to head the Platy is going to be a bit easier to push hard in a group, >>> and it doesn't have to be a major difference to be the difference between >>> keeping up and feeling like you're struggling in a group of carbon dropbar >>> bikes. Which I think is all she's saying, it's her opinion from her >>> experience. Can you club ride a Clem? Sure, knock yourself out! It's just >>> an opinion from someone who owns both bikes. >>> >>> Anyway, somebody sell Justin a 60cm Platy! >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:47:19 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>>> Haha! You can indeed be shocking. My point is that the Platy is not >>>> really a club rider. It can be made to be closer to one but you don't have >>>> it decked out that way. If I was going to use it for fast rides I would >>>> lose the fenders and racks, go to light drops with brifters, even lighter >>>> wheels (I know that analog and HOW build great wheels that can be pretty >>>> light but I can bet that it doesn't have less than 32 spokes because they >>>> focus on really good solid wheels not the absolute lightest), do you have >>>> lights on it?? I can't remember...those would go if they are there. And at >>>> the end of the day you would still have a slack geometry and LONG >>>> wheelbase >>>> thats not typical go fast geometry. And none of that is being critical >>>> because you know its not ideal in fact I always took your point in all of >>>> to be that any good bike can be used for that if you want to. There is not >>>> a world of difference between a Platy and a Clem. The biggest thing is the >>>> beauty of the frame and the lugs. I don't doubt you felt a difference but >>>> there are lots of factors that could be coming in to play. People tend to >>>> put robust wheels on Clems because they are a workhorse and a commuter and >>>> they treat it as such and tires make sure a huge difference. But it could >>>> be many things. >>>> >>>> I have light supple wheels set up tubeless on mine with a good wheelset >>>> and I can feel the geometry difference between it and my road focused >>>> Gallop more than anything else. But the geometry difference between the >>>> Platy and Clem is not that extreme. It was built to be lugless and >>>> affordable not necessarily more robust (although I am sure to a degree it >>>> is). I would be shocked if there was any major weight difference between >>>> the two frames when stripped down. >>>> >>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19:02 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can be shocking! But I had my blue Clem as my only Riv for a long >>>>> time, and I had it set up as best I could with light parts and wheels and >>>>> tires and still I was exhausted riding it at speed and up hills. The >>>>> Platy >>>>> solved that for me, and I had light parts on both and had Analog build >>>>> both >>>>> wheelsets. >>>>> >>>>> I tried the Clem for a club ride and I’m not lying when I say it taxed >>>>> me. My heart beat so fast with the work I was putting in that I was >>>>> throwing PACs. Now, I don’t know your demographics but for a 5’6” 128 lb >>>>> woman it was work to race that Clem around. There’s nothing lowly about a >>>>> Clem and I wouldn’t call the bike slow, either. But it’s not a club racer >>>>> by design, and I certainly couldn’t make it into one. >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am shocked Leah....as someone who regularly takes a bike with extra >>>>> weight and a non-ideal gear ranges on club rides I think its unfair to >>>>> label the Clem as not suitable for the same. I (personally) would >>>>> probably >>>>> make changes to a Platy set up as such before using it for club rides but >>>>> YES as we have seen it can be used for that. I stand by the fact that >>>>> people just setup Clems differently and that leads to the whole "heavy >>>>> and >>>>> not as nimble" thought. Riv geometry is Riv geometry and there is nothing >>>>> specific that makes the Platy majorly different other than how people >>>>> treat >>>>> them and adorn them. Personally I prefer the greater stepoverability of >>>>> the >>>>> Clem but I DO understand the reason why it gets labeled as lowly and >>>>> slow. >>>>> I just don't agree. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 10:15:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug, Well, I can tell you in earnest! Now, you know I’m on your side >>>>>> about Clem-loving. I will never sell mine. But the Platy is more nimble >>>>>> and >>>>>> fits me like a glove. I race it around on club rides. But I can also >>>>>> haul a >>>>>> bunch of stuff with it. What can you not do with the Platy? Well, gravel >>>>>> rides aren’t ideal, I suppose. Also, I hardly ever see a Cheviot for >>>>>> sale. >>>>>> I think people tend to keep the Rivendell mixtes. I’ve wondered why, but >>>>>> that is a subject for another thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Clem is also good at many things on that list, excluding club >>>>>> riding. That one time the Platy was in the shop and I took it to the >>>>>> club >>>>>> ride…I nearly died that day, astride my blue Clem…ah, memories. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think, Justin? You’ve had a Chev and a Clem… >>>>>> L >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What is it about the Platypus that relegates the Clem to not quite >>>>>> good enough? I ask in jest. I'm loving my Clem and if I bought a Platy >>>>>> it >>>>>> would have to be Clem plus one. I hope you find one in trade Justin but >>>>>> like Leah said it seems folks don't move on from a Platypus often. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 5:40:49 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I love my blue Clem but dark green and orange sounds sooo nice. >>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 4:19:31 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep and apparently they're doing completes, too? I'm not entirely >>>>>>>> sure this is correct but I think James told me a few weeks ago that >>>>>>>> they're >>>>>>>> coming in Sergio Green. >>>>>>>> [image: Capture.PNG] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 4:03:58 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are they coming in Sergio Green? I had heard silver and Ana Purple >>>>>>>>> but that was many months ago. They maybe changed it. Do you know what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> second color will be? >>>>>>>>> Good luck with your search. I love a Platy above all else. I bet >>>>>>>>> you don’t sell it, even in 2 years when you get the itch to try >>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>> new. ☺️ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Leah. I saw that, but was hoping to get one at a used >>>>>>>>>> price or to trade. Otherwise, I may hold out until the Sergio Green >>>>>>>>>> plattys >>>>>>>>>> are released (September according to the most recent calendar?) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like I said, I love my Clem but yes, I miss the Cheviot and am >>>>>>>>>> itching for something a little different. I rode Will's platypus >>>>>>>>>> when I was >>>>>>>>>> there last summer and really dug it. Seems like every two years I >>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>> change it up ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 2:25:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Justin, it says C&L has one in Canada. I’ve bought from them >>>>>>>>>>> before, they are the loveliest people. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: rivendell-platypus-pride-o-the-cosmos-t-shirt.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cadre Rivendell Platypus Step-Through Countrybike Frame >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938&quantity=1> >>>>>>>>>>> clcycle.ca >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938&quantity=1> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938&quantity=1> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:18 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>>>>>>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’ll do some digging and see if I can find you one, Justin. But >>>>>>>>>>> I’m so curious - I know you loved that Clem and you used to have a >>>>>>>>>>> Cheviot. >>>>>>>>>>> Are you missing your old Chev? I have both bikes and I find the >>>>>>>>>>> Platypus >>>>>>>>>>> far superior to my Clem so I get it. I’ll get to looking… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:37:27 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just throwing this out there in case anyone has a 60cm Platty >>>>>>>>>>>> frameset they're looking to unload or would be up for trading for >>>>>>>>>>>> my 64 >>>>>>>>>>>> Clem (in Lime Olive). Would pay $$ differential, of course. 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