Smitty, your description of how you sit on a Brooks sounds like you don't 
have the nose high enough. I had the same problem for ages until I took a 
cue from Rich @ Riv (the wheelbuilder) and pointed mine way up. The trick - 
which is admittedly very hard to tolerate long enough for it to work - is 
too start with it so high that it feels weird..then don't touch it. Keep 
riding like 10 miles and and you may find it feels great and you're sitting 
near the center of the saddle. If not, drop it a very minor amount and do a 
few more miles that way. 

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I always find myself (uncomfortably) sitting far back on Brooks and 
> similar saddles, on the rivits or hard support structure. Or I find myself 
> sliding into the nose. I wonder if the wider and slightly more modern shape 
> of this new RBW saddle would be helpful. Not running bars above saddle 
> height though. 
>
> Smitty in DC
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:03:26 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Kim. This is so interesting to me. I find the B-17’s and other 
>> saddles of similar width, like the Selle Anatomica, to be a bit too narrow. 
>> Currently I’m happy riding B67 on my commuter and in-town bike,  and B68s 
>> on my  Rivs,   However, I’d like to have a less fancy saddle on my 
>> commuter, as I’m nervous about locking it up. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>> Philadelphia 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:47:42 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I found this on the sub-Reddit site r/xbiking;
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/161zcw8/looks_like_rivs_new_plastic_saddle_is_coming_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=10&utm_content=1&rdt=63131
>>>
>>> Looks interesting with possibilities.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>

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