I had a longer, rambling, draft response on this topic that is better left 
unread and may revisit to actually re-organize my thoughts at some point 
and maybe add to the discussion but had to at least come back to add one 
note:  With all the mention of WIDE legs and '90's attire returning... as 
another 90's (Gen. 'something or another' and class of '99!) member, I 
can't help but imagine someone attempting a tuck/peg & fold or ankle 
strapping on some of those ultra wide JNCO jeans for a ride.  Thanks for 
the much needed laughs!  The kind with deeeeeep pockets could even carry a 
pump, tube(s), toolkit, snacks, Hydroflasks, etc!  Who needs racks or bags 
or jersey pockets?!

Brian
Lawrence NJ

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 3:52:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> If you are claiming credit for turning me into a fop, then I'd dispute 
> that claim
> If you are claiming credit for helping make the RBW Group a more welcoming 
> space for people like me to let their fop flag fly, then I'd definitely 
> agree.
>
> :)
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to 
>> remain humble over here.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". 
>> They are addictive.
>>
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
>>> LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>>>
>>> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling 
>>> turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all 
>>> Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! 
>>>
>>> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on 
>>> wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days 
>>> and also really fun party shirts:
>>>
>>> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>>>
>>> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals 
>>> is my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
>>> [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
>>> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>>>
>>> - Christian in Colorado, 
>>> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
>>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
>>>> treating you? 
>>>>
>>>> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
>>>> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>>>>
>>>> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it 
>>>> will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
>>>> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
>>>> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
>>>> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
>>>> to help me.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking 
>>>> then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants 
>>>> at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
>>>> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
>>>> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
>>>> rectify this issue. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
>>>> jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the 
>>>> other 
>>>> side! 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But 
>>>>> where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion 
>>>>> on the bike?
>>>>>
>>>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>>>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>>>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>>>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band 
>>>>> wagon. 
>>>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>>>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg 
>>>>> trouser. 
>>>>>
>>>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>>>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>>>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>>>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for 
>>>>> lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing 
>>>>> over 
>>>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
>>>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
>>>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
>>>>> home, well…here’s a photo. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want 
>>>>> to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes 
>>>>> (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good 
>>>>> for 
>>>>> biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re 
>>>>> just 
>>>>> going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>>>
>>>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>>>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>>>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain 
>>>>> me 
>>>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>>>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and 
>>>>> sneakers year-round.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? 
>>>>> Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While 
>>>>> I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might 
>>>>> feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Leah
>>>>>
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