Ok, I understand
Moving the saddle back increases the saddle to bar distance by about 2.5cm.
This indicates the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT.
Then, You cut 1 cm from the bars. This increased the saddle to bar distance,
indicating the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT, but is OK now.
So you ended up increasing the saddle to bar distance 3.5 cm to get to an
Acceptable position..
I think the Alba bar would be better based on this from the RBW write up on the
Billie:'The Billie straight grip section is 2" (5 cm) longer than an Alba."
So an Alba with a 10cm stem would have a saddle to bar distance 1.5cm longer
(5 - 3.5) than what you ended up.Replace the 10 cm stem with a 9cm and you are
within 0.5cm (5mm) of where you are at. A 8cm stem would also work, just 5mm
on the other side. A 8.5cm would be mathematically correct, but the 5mm either
way probably cant be felt..
Leah is also in a too short condition, excess seatpost SB and max length stem..
The extra 5cm of straight grip length of the Billie contributes to the
'shortness' by having the LONG straight grip section. The fact that other Riv
sisters had the same problem and they used Billie bars, indicate the Billie bar
is the common problem.
RBW supplies the Platy built up in Taiwan with a Tosco bar which has a sweep
back about the same a s a Billie. So they seem to supply Platy's as too short
due t9 the bar sweep back.
John HawrylakWoodstown NJ
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 02:45:29 PM EDT, Roberta
<rchas...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, John.
I must have said it wrong. I moved my saddle AWAY from the bars, towards the
rear end of my bike. I think that's called aft (I had to look it up). the
bars were still too close, so I cut off 1cm (after a year of trying to feel
OK). If the stem had come in an 11cm, I would have just done that.
I ended in a good position, so like you said "then all is good in life."
Roberta
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ
wrote:
Roberta
Pushing the saddle BACK to the back of the clamp, moves the saddle FORWARD the
maximum amount. This indicates the saddle to bar distance is too long and your
needed to reduce the reach. Maybe you pushed it too far forward, most Brooks
have only 20 to 30mm of total fore/aft motion..
Did you cut 1cm off the bars after pushing forward the max amount??. Cutting
the bars indicate the saddle to bar distance is too short, the opposite of your
original action (push saddle forward). The 1 cm cut is within the range of
Brooks adjustability.
But if you ended in a good position, then all is good in life.
John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:26:10 PM UTC-4
Roberta wrote:
I've had a few emails with other RivSisters who own Platys and there are quite
a few of us who've commented on having to push one's saddle back as far as the
rails could take it.
I'm on a 55 Platy with 83cm pbh--one or two more than Leah AND I like my saddle
high-- and would probably like mine back a touch more, but I'm unwilling to buy
a new seat post. My stem is one of the Nitto extra tall ones with 10 cm, the
longest they make for the extra high model. I ended up cutting ("the horror")
1 cm off my Billie Bars. Her saddle/seatpost would be shorter than mine,
closer to the handlebars, right?, so she might feel it more.
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:02:30 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
What’s weird is that I sized up! My PBH would technically fit the 50!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
Reflecting on all the setback talk, I do think the reach may be inherently a
tad short for the rider in question. I'm the same height as Leah - possibly
even shorter, I'm aging and shrinking! - and Grant designed my Rivendell with a
54.2 ST, 63 ETT to work with Boscos up way high. It's perfect.
On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:33:09 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
I love the new look. I also love the old look! Basically I just love that
Raspberry Racing Platy ❤️❤️❤️
On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 6:52:55 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:
In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.
Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite
Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally,
saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State,
and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut
Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the
bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent
her a photo.
“That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the
unvarnished truth.
I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these
grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them
up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days
later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks
positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of
pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich
leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather
give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area.
This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly
appointed to its duty.
Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to
match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…
Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah
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