Ok, ok, I see it, I’m here at last. I texted and DMd by two people today 
telling me I need to read this and weigh in. I don’t know that I can give 
you exact numbers and dimensions and weights, but I can tell you I know 
exactly what your wife is saying, Chung. 

Can I be bold here and just make the statement? Buy her the Platypus. Sell 
the Clem.

I know. You would rather make the bike you already have work for her, and I 
understand. But I have done what you are considering and I don’t think it 
will work for your wife. I had only my Clem L while I waited for the 
Platypus to be created. I was using the Clem to ride up the mountain home 
to my house and it was exhausting. I decided if I got lightweight, fancy 
wheels, supple tires, set them up tubeless and then lightened my 
components, that it would solve the problem. It helped, BUT, when that 
Platypus came, anything that Clem was offering me no longer compared. The 
Platy is just a superior bike and I can’t tell you how Rivendell did it. It 
isn’t that much lighter than a Clem, but it feels lighter. And zippy. And 
nimble. I ride my Platypus on club rides and I use my other Platypus for 
shopping. Sometimes I still ride the Clem but I always miss the Platys when 
I do. The Clem is a great riding bike. I’m happy to have one. But I live by 
the Platypus. 

I know. I can’t give you weight charts and all that, but I’m telling you 
the truth as I know it. There might be other people on here who currently 
have both bikes, but the ones I’m aware of prefer their Platypus to their 
Clem. Plus, the Platy is shorter than the Clem. Easier for the train.
Leah

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:23:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I have a 55 Platy and have ridden a Clem L.  Leah, BicycleBelleDingDing, 
> has both.  Clem L is significantly longer and heavier, but let Leah weigh 
> in.  
>
> Platy is a perfect pavement bike--looks pretty and feels great.  However, 
> it is long (although it is 5 inches shorter than 52 Clem L) and will not 
> fit on my city's bike bus rack.  I've had no issues on the commuter trains.
>
> If you're near Philadelphia and you want to try my "everything but the 
> kitchen sink" Platy, you're welcome to try.  It will be up for sale soon.  
> Why the sale?  The ONLY reason is I cannot fit it on my city's bus rack and 
> I live in the city where bus transportation is a must.  It's a non issue 
> for just about everyone else.  (Replacement bike is also a Riv, but it's 
> not finished yet, so haven't posted.)
>
> Feel free to contact me off list for a lot more details about different 
> Riv mixte's and step thrus--I've tried them all.  BTW, I also have this for 
> sale 
> https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/2019-handsome-cycles-55cm-she-devil/7670046879.html
>   
> and LOVED riding it until my new Riv purchase.   Not quite a Riv but a 
> great commuter bike.
>
> Roberta, seems like I've tried all the mixtes I could, from Philadelphia
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-5 chungeu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
>> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
>> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
>> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
>> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
>> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
>> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
>> setup to make it more zippy?
>>
>> Best,
>> Chung
>>
>

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