I'm ok with it! 

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 10:52:46 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

> Joe, is it OK if we start calling you Ralph Kramden ; )
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:39:15 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes, bus racks - my area of expertise - are a whole 'nother kettle of 
>> monkeys or whatever the idiom is. I've transported some longish 29er 
>> mountain bikes which barely fit the rack, and one of these days I'm going 
>> to collect a roadside garbage can with one! My Rivendell and any over-52cm 
>> Clem or Platy would not fit our buses. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 10:28:30 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> forgot the "OMG" pics.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:25:30 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> I took my 55 Platy to get Amtrak's opinion and they said no to carry on 
>>>> (roll on) service.  All he did was look at the bike.  I know of one 50 
>>>> Platy owner who went by train on a bike tour,  but I don't remember if she 
>>>> brought her Platy or her other bike on her wedding anniversary trip this 
>>>> summer.  Leah might know.  I wouldn't want to take a chance that they 
>>>> might 
>>>> say "no" when I roll my bike to the door.
>>>>
>>>> In my city/suburban train (Septa), I can bring any bike on the train, 
>>>> but there is no special place to store it, so I sit the end of the car and 
>>>> try to keep it out of the way.  In S. Jersey's River line, I can hang it.  
>>>>  
>>>> I don't know about the rest of NJ Transit (I know one iBob member who does 
>>>> alot of NJT with bike, but not sure of storage situation.)  On the 
>>>> Philadelphia bus system, Platy is too long and I'm afraid with one good 
>>>> bump, it would be road kill (yes, I'd tie it down if forced to take it on 
>>>> a 
>>>> bus rack).  You can see my 2019 Homer sits OK.  If I wanted to take a bike 
>>>> with me on Amtrak, Platy wouldn't be an option. Perhaps in other parts of 
>>>> the country, the bus racks are longer?
>>>>
>>>> So, how often would one need to take it on a train/bus/Amtrak?  For me, 
>>>> right now, little on Amtrak, but lots on busses.  I imagine the adventures 
>>>> I could have taking a bus/train one way and the bike the other direction.
>>>>
>>>> Roberta  
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:44:52 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a good question, Brian. I'm a transit bus driver and 
>>>>> technically we have limits on what will fit on the bus but in reality if 
>>>>> you've got stuff and you haven't convinced me you can't get that stuff on 
>>>>> there..it's on there! My understanding (I've never been on Amtrak) is the 
>>>>> bikes store vertically, my guess is if it's shorter than a tandem it's 
>>>>> going to work. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe "I should plan a short Amtrak trip and see if they bounce my 
>>>>> custom" Bernard 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone had their bike denied on Amtrak due to wheelbase length? 
>>>>>> The Amtrak I take occasionally has a 2" tire width limit in their fine 
>>>>>> print, but I have never had an issue even though all my tires are larger 
>>>>>> than that. I asked a conductor once and he basically said if its a 
>>>>>> standard 
>>>>>> bike (non-recumbent, non e-fat is what he mentioned) he didn't care. 
>>>>>> Obviously you can't assume every train official will be lax about it but 
>>>>>> I'm curious if anyone has had issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 7:25:15 AM UTC-6 allan....@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It depends what type of bike-related service is available on the 
>>>>>>> Amtrak line you will be taking. The dimensions Joe cites are for 
>>>>>>> checked, 
>>>>>>> in a box. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I occasionally bring a bike on the train  from where I live in 
>>>>>>> southern Vermont to New York City via the Albany Amtrak station. On 
>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>> line there is only carryon service and there are only 4 special bike 
>>>>>>> lockers available. The bike hangs from the rear wheel and the front 
>>>>>>> wheel 
>>>>>>> must be removed beforehand. It’s a bodged-up arrangement and I have to 
>>>>>>> lash 
>>>>>>> the frame with my own straps to keep everything from swinging and 
>>>>>>> damaging 
>>>>>>> the frame’s finish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve taken both an Yves Gomez and a Trek crit bike. Both have 650b 
>>>>>>> wheels. I’ve never actually measured the vertical space afforded by the 
>>>>>>> locker but without a front wheel it seemed that there might be another 
>>>>>>> 8-10” available; I’ll bring a tape next time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allan, in snowy Marlboro, Vt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 2:54:13 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Size and weight limit restrictions: 50 lbs. and 70" x 41" x 8.5". 
>>>>>>>> Your bike will be approximately 4-5 inches too long for Amtrak. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:53:28 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>>> kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I ordered a 55 Platy in the last presale, was thinking of taking 
>>>>>>>>> amtrak to pick it up in person and bring it with me back, Oakland to 
>>>>>>>>> LA. 
>>>>>>>>> Can someone confirm whether or not the bike will be accepted on the 
>>>>>>>>> train 
>>>>>>>>> without boxing it up? Please and thank you. Good luck with your 
>>>>>>>>> Platycisions Leah! 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:13:48 AM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am with George. Once you have more than a certain number of 
>>>>>>>>>> bikes (a number you are certain to have opinions about), one of them 
>>>>>>>>>> should 
>>>>>>>>>> be a folder!
>>>>>>>>>> Great for train travel.
>>>>>>>>>> Great for guests (they fit all kinds of people).
>>>>>>>>>> Great for conversation starter.
>>>>>>>>>> Can be stored in a closet, attic, under the stairs, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Edwin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:16:07 AM UTC-6 George Schick 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH 
>>>>>>>>>>> would not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some 
>>>>>>>>>>> models 
>>>>>>>>>>> are equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  
>>>>>>>>>>> They 
>>>>>>>>>>> come with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, 
>>>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>>>> course, they are step-though by definition.  That could be your 
>>>>>>>>>>> travel bike 
>>>>>>>>>>> and you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have 
>>>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>>>> carry-on bikes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can’t 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Too long 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chicago with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kate says 
>>>>>>>>>>>> she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V 
>>>>>>>>>>>> brakes and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> could 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That might 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how 
>>>>>>>>>>>> many 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Platys a girl can have.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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