I have both a toyo atlantis and i think a 2011 (double top tube, centermount) hillborne. They are markedly different beasts, atlantis with clearance for days, 2.2s could fit comfortably, the sam has narrower chainstays that limit it to 48s with some rubbing on high effort pushes. Tubing seems to be about the same stoutness, though the extra top tube might have something to do with that. The setups are different too, one intended for townie cruising, comfort, and gravel road touring in all weather, the other geared for more spirited road riding with capacity to jump into gravel roads and hairy descents. I will say, i do wish occasionally for a more road forward bike having the atlantis, but i make do with what i have. -Randy in Portland, OR On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:39:04 AM UTC-8 exliontamer wrote:
> Thanks for the insights. I have a potential trade for another frame I have > but I have a feeling they'd be too similar outside of the slightly lighter > tubing. > On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 8:00:55 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> The difference would be tubing. Hillborne is a "country bike" not >> intended to carry touring loads or bomb around on gnarly trails. Atlantis >> (that's one the I owned) is a beefy frame which will take just about >> anything you can throw at it. >> >> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 5:29:30 PM UTC-8 brycel...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> If you compare the two bikes on bike insights, they're almost identical >>> except the new Sams have more stack. >>> >>> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:36:39 PM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote: >>> >>>> Just curious if anyone has any real world experience with both of these >>>> bikes, and if so, how similar they feel & ride (aside from obvious >>>> differences like tire clearance). I have a 61 Atlantis and am looking at a >>>> 60 Hillborne. Thanks! >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/71291cdc-4a58-4b74-8e7f-2bc4997dc386n%40googlegroups.com.
