Well Rivendell pushes the completes and orders more of them because that is 
what they want people to do. For completes they don't even open the boxes 
unless you request it so the work load on them is way less. They are great 
values if you want what they have on it but the last complete I got I 
swapped almost everything so the end value to me wasn't great. I understand 
it from a business perspective and am not bothered by what they are doing.

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 12:39:02 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> They have them in completes which is a pretty good deal. I imagine they 
> sell better than the framesets. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:48:22 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I am thinking they either didn't get any frame stock in those sizes or 
>> they got a comically low amount because those are the only sizes that sold 
>> out and it was pretty much immediately. But the 52 is a popular size so I 
>> am shocked they didn't get more stock of that.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 11:28:09 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Kim,
>>> It appears that both the 45cm and 52cm frame sets in dark orange and 
>>> forest green are both SOLD OUT from just visiting the RBW website.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:19:27 AM UTC-8 kims...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there anyone here successfully secured a small Clem (46-52) frame 
>>>> today from the presale? I don't know if those sizes for both new colors 
>>>> got 
>>>> sold out quickly. 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>

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