I have found the Marathon Supremes (700x35 and 700x38) to be great for urban riding/touring purposes. But, they are now sadly discontinued. The "replacement" is the Marathon "efficiency" which I can't quite get my head around...Another tire that I now enjoy for such purposes is the Panaracer Pasella Protite. Less expensive, great rolling, maybe not quite as flat-resistant, but so far so good (fingers crossed). I had used the original Pasellas, but found them to be flat-prone. The new ones seem to roll as well, but be much more flat-prone. Of course, I'm not riding on shoulders of highways where lots of tire and shrapnel conspire to deflate tires.
https://www.schwalbetires.com/Marathon-Efficiency-11654366 https://www.panaracerusa.com/products/pasela-protite-folding-urban-commuter-tire FWIW, have haven't had trouble mounting Schwalbes (Marathon Green Guard, Marathon Supreme, Marathon Mondial) on Velocity Dyads nor Quill. They were a bit tougher to mount on Sun Rims (CR 18, I believe?). I think the key is to get the tire beads well into the center of the wheel well before proceeding with mounting. John, Portland OR On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 1:54:52 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote: > Marathon Supremes have been quite supple and easy to mount for me > Max > > On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Ed Carolipio <ed.car...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I've had similar problems with the Cliffhangers and other tubeless > compatible rims. Two things I did to make life easier: (1) ensure the tire > bead is in the center channel, as Josiah pointed out; and (2) use a thin > plastic tubeless rim tape (Stan's, Velocity, Muc-Off) even when running > tubes and limit it at one layer. Never use the cloth rim tape (like Velox) > and avoid the rubber rim strips (like Ritchey). > > You didn't mention if you had a wire bead or folding bead tires. Wire > beads are hit-and-miss with different rims. I've found I have a lot less > trouble with folding bead tires. > > You also didn't mention which Marathons you're running. IMO the base > Marathons are the ones folks abhor. I opt for the highest option Marathons, > which used to be the Marathon Supremes but currently I think are Almotions, > and always in a folding bead. It's a much more supple and lighter tire with > similar flat performance and durability. I haven't had direct experince > with the Mondials but people speak highly of those when touring off road. > > --Ed Carolipio > Redondo Beach, CA > > On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 8:46:32 AM UTC-8 Curtis wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Looking for some Cliffhanger wisdom. It seems that I am having a good >> amount of trouble mounting Schwalbe Marathons on my Cliffhangers. So much >> so that I worry about a tire change in the field, such as the Oregon >> Outback, and been stranded. I am now carrying a large screwdriver to get >> the leverage needed to mount the last bit of tire on the rim. Have not >> pinched more that two tubes in the last fifty years of flat fixing. >> Yesterday, I pinched two and scratched the heck out of the rim. Not to >> mention bending the cool aluminum CyclePro tire levers that I have had >> since high school. >> Any advice would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Curtis >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZGX0Dwfvs9k/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/86a5ec8c-2797-4422-b16c-a3d21fc3553fn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/86a5ec8c-2797-4422-b16c-a3d21fc3553fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f8302366-2bc4-4bf9-85ca-1fd0ada4fa93n%40googlegroups.com.
