I have had no complaints with Dr. Phil.... Phil Wood, that is, and their 
sealed bottom brackets with thousands of miles on my old road bike that I 
installed in the early 1970's.  If my Clem BB needed replacing, I would 
consider buying a Phil Wood BB. 

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 7:17:31 AM UTC-8 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tange for me - fits the budget and quality criteria.  SKF are very nice.  
> People also like Omniracer.  This debate just went down on the iBob list.
>
> Will
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:12 AM Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mine is the un300. I’ve just removed it & it is noticeably smoother off 
>> the bike. It’s not “crunchy” & had no side to side play when installed. So 
>> maybe it’s not toast yet but it’s out now so…
>> I am honestly considering the traditional cup/cone one Riv sells. The 
>> installation does not bother me - I used to do it on my bikes from the 
>> ‘70’s. Also intrigued by the Stronglight ones Peter White sells.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2024, at 12:19 AM, Collin A <collinm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Everyone has a rule of thumb, but this is mine - replace chain at 
>> whatever wear indicator is appropriate for the chain speed (9 is about 
>> 0.75% wear, 10/11 is 0.5% wear). An 11 speed chain for me lasts about 
>> 6000-8000 miles of pretty nasty conditions with proper waxing and cleaning. 
>> My 9 speeds last less but those are the ones on the tourer/commuter/rafter 
>> bike. Funnily enough, the chainrings that came on my clem wore out pretty 
>> quickly, no idea why though. The 7075 alu rings seem to last much longer.
>>
>> As for other drivetrain  parts, I change my cassette after I've gone 
>> through 3 chains, and I change my chainrings after I've gone through 2 
>> cassettes. Of my oldest drivetrain currently in use (about 5 years now), 
>> I've only just had to replace the cassette once, so I should be good to go 
>> on my chainrings for another 5 years, woo!
>>
>> As for BB, no need to replace until they get crunchy, it isn't too hard 
>> to switch out a cartridge BB. Especially since the venerable Un55 BB that I 
>> assume your clem has is no longer in production and the Un300 are kinda 
>> "meh" in comparison.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin "hold on and let me measure" in Berkeley
>>
>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:18:54 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am two years and 7300 miles in on my Clem. Chain measure tool 
>>> indicates I need a new chain & 38t large chainring on the Silver crank has 
>>> some "sharkfining" evident. New chain and chainring will arrive in a few 
>>> days. Small ring and cassette look good. What sort of mileage do folks 
>>> usually expect out of these components? While I am at it, bike is apart and 
>>> standard Shimano cartridge bottom bracket does not exactly feel smooth. It 
>>> did feel smooth spinning when crank was still installed & there is no play 
>>> evident. Riv suggests these bottom brackets might be good for 15,000 miles? 
>>> I do not want to needlessly replace it but the bike is apart so..?
>>
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