Don, 

What shifters are you using? Are they index or friction? 

Joe Bernard 

On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 6:03:50 PM UTC-8 Donzaemon wrote:

> So I'm about a couple weeks into owning my Homer, which I'm loving so far. 
> Its use has been limited to pavement save for a short segment of dirt trail 
> that connects official segments of SF Bay Trail in Alameda, CA. I've made a 
> couple of observations so far:
>
> *Cockpit*
> I enjoy the relaxed upright position that the Billie Bars provide. It's 
> done wonders keeping me comfortable and has not made any of my existing 
> neck and lower back issues worse. That said, it feels a little awkward to 
> make u-turns or any other decent turns at lower speed. While I don't intend 
> on taking this bike on the many singletrack trails that make up a large 
> portion of the natural surface trails in the SF Bay, I would like to take 
> it on gravel climbs when and if possible. I realize I can use the positions 
> directly in front of the brake levers on the Billie Bars, but I'm not sure 
> if that'll provide the lever control that I'm looking for. 
>
> I'm thinking about switching to wide-ish drop bars with some flare. I'm 
> using Ritchey Corralitos (480mm) bars on my Ascent and I love them. I'd get 
> a pair for the Homer if they were available in silver. I'm intrigued by the 
> Crust Towel Rack, but I'm afraid they'd be a little on the wide side for 
> me. Rune Bicycles is on the verge of releasing their Hilt Bars that hits 
> pretty much all my checkboxes so I may opt for those when they're released. 
> For those of you who do similar mixed-terrain rides with your Homers, what 
> are your handlebar preference, and why?
>
> *Drivetrain*
> For my first build, I went with a 42/28 double with a 11-40 8sp cassette. 
> I'm controlling the derailleurs (ultegra front and xtr rd-m960 rear with 
> roadlink) with thumbies and love them. That said, shifting hasn't been what 
> I had hoped. I find the shifts to be sloppy when shifting the range of cogs 
> in the middle of the cassette. I'm not sure if I'm describing this 
> correctly, but the gears sometimes slip during shifting resulting in two 
> "clunks" before fully engaging. Also, the gears don't feel smooth between 
> the middle to smallest cogs. Could this be due to the roadlink? I like the 
> range of the 11-40 cassette and it's been nice using the big cog on climbs 
> when needed so I'd prefer not to get rid of the roadlink and switch to an 
> 11-34 cassette. I have an XTR RD-M952 I can try out instead? For those of 
> you with similar gearing, what components have you settled on to get 
> flawless shifting?
>
> Thanks, in advance, for the feedback!
>
> -Don
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:12:11 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, I will be keeping an eye out for you on Mt. Diablo so I can give 
>> you a thumbs up when you pass me! 
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 5:16:41 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> A couple weeks back I said:
>>>
>>> "The film makes me want to set a Diablo goal for 2024.  I've summited 
>>> Diablo maybe 10 times, but I want to do multiple summits this year.  I'm 
>>> going to start with 5 as my goal, with the extra challenge that I want to 
>>> do it on 5 different bikes in my stable.  If I manage that, then summit #6 
>>> will be on a derailleurless bike."
>>>
>>> When I state a goal, I feel committed, even if the RBW Group isn't 
>>> expending energy to hold me accountable, there is accountability when I 
>>> type it out.  Anyhow, I got a start on the above today with my first summit 
>>> of Mount Diablo for 2024.  I did it on my current stripped down road bike, 
>>> my Black Mountain Cycles Road.  I picked today to avoid the pockets of rain 
>>> that are hitting us with some regularity.  It was sunny and cool, but not 
>>> cold.  One down, four to go.  Highlights included a rider on a 2TT 
>>> Hillborne with Albatross bars.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 8:48:53 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> Therese is a delightful person and a very good rider.  I used to run 
>>>> across her a lot in the East Bay and at SFR events, but I don't think our 
>>>> paths have crossed lately.  
>>>>
>>>> She's also a fair bit more enlightened about gearing than the 
>>>> filmmaker.  Her set up isn't perfect, but it's close (IMHO).  
>>>>
>>>> The film makes me want to set a Diablo goal for 2024.  I've summited 
>>>> Diablo maybe 10 times, but I want to do multiple summits this year.  I'm 
>>>> going to start with 5 as my goal, with the extra challenge that I want to 
>>>> do it on 5 different bikes in my stable.  If I manage that, then summit #6 
>>>> will be on a derailleurless bike.  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>> On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 7:53:19 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2-hdvGWjU&ab_channel=Henrywildeberry
>>>>>
>>>>> I found a youtube video that is exactly how I want to ride.... 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 5:04:42 AM UTC-8 Sarah Carlson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All these responses have given me so much to think about, I 
>>>>>> appreciate all the help. Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 7:01:05 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My low on a 650B bike in Lake County, CA., is 26 x 50. It's useful! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 1:25:54 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Greater Bay Area is full of 13-24% grades (which is where Sarah 
>>>>>>>> lives). Visitors from other areas (including places like Colorado) 
>>>>>>>> frequently drop their jaws when they see what the local touring clubs 
>>>>>>>> ride 
>>>>>>>> as a matter of course. A 24x36 drivetrain isn't too low a gear here, 
>>>>>>>> especially if you're carrying a load. On my triplet, I had a 24x36 and 
>>>>>>>> still couldn't climb anything over a 12% grade when carrying panniers. 
>>>>>>>> On 
>>>>>>>> my single bike I have a 40x51, and just manage to make it up a 30% 
>>>>>>>> grade, 
>>>>>>>> which required shifting my weight between the rear and front wheels in 
>>>>>>>> order to keep both wheels on the ground while grinding away. Here in 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> greater San Francisco Bay Area, your bike can never be too light, you 
>>>>>>>> can 
>>>>>>>> never be too wealthy, and you can never have gears too low!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 1:13 PM Greg J <greg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Sarah - maybe the easiest thing is to go on a ride with some 
>>>>>>>>> local list members who can give you some ideas while you're actually 
>>>>>>>>> riding 
>>>>>>>>> on these roads.  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example, have you ridden a 24T granny on the road---and if so, 
>>>>>>>>> with what rear cog?  A 24 is really very low for the road (but not 
>>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>>> dirt), and a 24T - 32 in the back may be too low to be useful.  A 26 
>>>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>>>> even a 28 may be a better granny depending on your cassette range.  
>>>>>>>>> But as 
>>>>>>>>> mentioned already, only you know what works for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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