For years Grant/Rivendell argued against lots of gears in the rear because 
people didn't need to shift that much. The message was to push through if 
its too hard or even get off and push the bike up the hill. Now its 
shifting to a new argument...why not have those extra gears available. 
Honestly its all marketing to me. I like the simplicity of a 1x because I 
get the bulk of the gears I need with less maintenance. For me (personally 
mind you) the front derailer has always been the sketchiest part of the 
setup. Dropping chains, chain rub....its all a balancing act. I am happy to 
have that all go away with a sacrifice of the granny gear. I see what VO is 
saying and I think its probably a practical opinion but for me?? 1x just 
works.

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> I have a triple on just one bike (Soma Saga). My main problem is that when 
> I’m in the smallest chainring I am moving so slowly that it’s hard to stay 
> upright. On the very steep inclines that necessitate the small cog, I find 
> it easier to just get off and walk the bike up the hill (something we used 
> to call a “24-inch gear”).
>
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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 9:20 AM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been on half-step triples for over a decade, and never looked back.  
> Many 30-mi rides never see a rear shift.  
>
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> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:00:57 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> For several years all my bikes have had triples, usually 46-32-20 on XT 
>> 737 cranks. For this current trip I took off the big ring because I rarely 
>> use it when touring with Cindy, or any of my solo riding, just when riding 
>> with the guys chasing them down hills. It does look a little ridiculous, 
>> with the front der way up in the air but so far its working out just fine.
>>
>>
>> Steven Sweedler
>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:47 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> VO makes a good case for triples:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://mailchi.mp/velo-orange.com/triplesaregreatchangemymind?e=9c5efe5ba1
>>>
>>> *Simplicity and Effectiveness* While 1x systems boast simplicity, the 
>>> emphasis on constant shifting may be overstated. Many riders find 
>>> themselves primarily using the middle ring, operating as a 1x system with 
>>> added flexibility to adapt to different terrain.
>>>
>>> The point that triples are usually used as 1Xs with low and high ranges 
>>> available is the key, I think. I know that, even with 10 or 11 in back, I'd 
>>> not want a 1X, and even a 1X + granny (ie, very wide range subcompact 2X) 
>>> would leave me wanting easy-shifting gears for steep rolling offroad 
>>> terrain (which I don't ride anymore), as I found when I swapped out a 3X7 
>>> for a 2X9 on my erstwhile Fargo. For road use including heavy loads and 
>>> steep hills the 2X9 was easier to use and provided sufficient range with 
>>> close cruising steps, but I did miss the middle-ring range between about 
>>> 65" and 35" which comes with the middle ring on a 46/36/24 triple.
>>>
>>> -- 
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