A 56 center-to-center seat tube measurement would likely equate to a 57 
center-to-top measurement as tyically used by Rivendell.  But that actually 
jives with the chart at the link you provided.  There is a 57 but not a 56.
On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:

> Good morning. I was told that the measurements didn't come through clearly 
> in the pictures, so I remeasured and this is a 56. It's squarely 56cm, 
> measured center to center. When I posted yesterday I misremembered and 
> unfortunately I can't change the subject line.  *It is a 56cm.* 
>
> The seat tube measures 56cm CTC and the TT (CTC, but there's a 2* slope) 
> is about 562. Riv's geo chart is here: 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> And here's the geo on BikeInsights (comparing the 56 and the 58): 
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5a1e69902a0c030014708caa,5a1e69902a0c030014708cab,
>
> Finally, here's the product page from that same archive/same era is here: 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170704042854/https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/a-homer-hilsen
>
> The only picture with the measuring tape I can discern is the headtube 
> (~246mm), which is not a helpful measurement, IMO, but I know a lot of 
> people look at that like gospel.
>
>
>
> Daniel in LA, CA, USA
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:52:13 PM UTC-8 Dan wrote:
>
>> I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. 
>> This is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a 
>> Waterford.  Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost 
>> not included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might 
>> need. Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange 
>> headset. 
>>
>> For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
>> are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
>> in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
>> wrapper). 
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA
>>
>> Daniel
>> LA, CA, USA
>>
>

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