This is a tough one.  My personal experience has been that I can get along 
with almost any saddle.  There are shapes that I like better for longer 
efforts (I like flat and narrow, so Fizik for plastic or Brooks Pro for 
leather, Ergons on my mtb), but most saddles are tolerable.  I think we all 
know the foundational secret to saddle comfort is some base level of hours 
in the saddle, but I imagine that is not your issue.

Which leads me to believe that there's something else at play here - a fit 
issue.  I wonder if getting a bike fit might steer you in some clearer 
direction than what we can offer here.

Will

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 8:56:24 PM UTC-4 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I also feel that if I did not think about my saddle or anything that 
> touches it during a ride then I have a successful saddle fit. I ride with 
> no padded shorts so I can tell when a saddle doesn’t feel right.
>
> On my saddles that fit best I can feel pressure on my sit bones but 
> nowhere else. My understanding is that saddles with more cushion are 
> actually worse for comfort since you sink into them and that crushes parts 
> that should not be crushed.  
>
> When you find a saddle that works be sure to buy a supply of them because 
> manufacturers tend to keep changing things and what works for you may be 
> gone when you need a replacement.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
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> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:18 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'm sorry to hear that, but I am confident that you can find a solution. 
> IME, saddle comfort depends as much on saddle setup -- height, setback, 
> tilt -- and on body position when your ride -- thus bar shape and position 
> -- as it does on saddle shape.
>
> My own test is, "did I think about the saddle during my ride?" If I don't 
> think about it on a ride of typical length, then I judge the saddle a 
> success. Of course, what "disappears" for 20 or 30 miles may come back with 
> a vengeance after 50 or 100 miles, so one has to take into account all of 
> one's riding.
>
> Perhaps you might consider getting a professional bike fit? Really, if I 
> were in your situation, I'd consider this money well spent.
>
> Good luck, and let us know what happens.
>
> Patrick "Original Flites and only original Flites" Moore
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 2:00 PM Emily Guise <emily...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello folks, I come to the group with a dilemma. I've never had a saddle 
>> that I could ride for longer than 20 miles comfortably. I've always ended 
>> up with sore sit bones, numb soft tissue, or both. This has really limited 
>> my ability to go on longer trips and after my five day ride on the C&O 
>> canal trail last Sept, it was more apparent than ever I need to find a 
>> saddle that won't hurt. 
>>
>> I've tried dozens of saddles over the last 15 years- leather, plastic, 
>> cutouts, no cutouts, wide, medium, softer, harder, you name it. :( Most of 
>> the saddles that have stayed on my bikes for longer than a month have a 
>> central cut out, are on the wider side, and plastic. They're good for 
>> around town, but that's it. I've never had my sit bones measured. 
>>
>> It occurred to me recently that because I've never had a truly 
>> comfortable long-distance saddle, I have no idea how one feels. So I 
>> figured I'd ask the group. How did The One saddle feel for you? Did it 
>> "disappear"? Was it love at first sit? Did it need to be adjusted a lot 
>> before finding the ideal position? Is there a certain amount of miles you 
>> ride before it becomes uncomfortable? 
>>
>> I'd love to hear the group's collective wisdom so I know what to look for 
>> in the next saddle I try out. Thanks! 
>>
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