I actually forgot all about that. I had read a large and very nerdy article 
on this recently. The reason why this hasn't taken off is because its not 
really practical or efficient to charge a phone with the dynamo. Most 
phones have software that throttle low level charges like what you would 
get from a dynamo. I have been becoming a big fan of battery lights as 
well. They have so many lighting options and stay charged for a really long 
time. And battery packs are really easy to keep with you if you go longer. 
Easier than all of the wires and drag that a dynamo brings. BUT there is 
something to be said to always 100% having a light read to go if you need 
it.

On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 7:55:19 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> Let me be a bit of a contrarian on the lighting situation. Is a dyno hub + 
> phone charger worth the hassle?.. I am not sure. 
>
> A dyno hub puts out a nominal 3 Watts. If you ride it for an hour, that's 
> 3 watt-hours worth of electricity. Let's say it gets split between the 
> light and your phone. If you ride continuously for 10 hours, that's about 
> 30 watt-hours. Let's say half is used to power the light, half to power the 
> phone... 
>
> An iPhone 15 Pro has a 3,274 mA-hour / 12.70 watt-hr battery. So, half the 
> energy from the dynamo will charge the phone about once. 
>
> How large of a battery would hold that much electricity? Thanks to modern 
> lithium ion polymer technology, a small power-bank like this one 
> <https://www.amazon.com/INIU-Portable-Charging-10000mAh-Tablets/dp/B09176JCKZ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2B93PIB3Z2ZNQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.opVLM8gMhlqnKzxd6VfcTEibR8So9f5axO0IRe67RXYp4ybQ4VaM2lECnW-ziLNQJLPyGyzKrDxC9OPe_PLq-7l2dDGAGttapTzGOOQsdJ2GMg7cAp9juMJaoo1N7awcGlnrF8NmybD09Yy0ntRE19OmC0d1mycXU-if58MpqcIdsG0f5Fxz3KnKUfVqourvHbFjQLjfYl4FNJ8MF5h3WblCuP4qj8NmDVzT4_ur8CI.fuO9lv2EGMoOgghpq1XqnEuYFzC-s8XaDQP_nXmrB-I&dib_tag=se&keywords=portable%2Bbattery&qid=1711150447&sprefix=portable%2Bbattery%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1>
>  (about 
> the thickness of the iPhone but fits in the palm of your hand) can recharge 
> that phone ~1.5 times (implying it's got ~19 watt-hours of useful 
> capacity). A slightly larger one 
> <https://www.amazon.com/VRURC-Portable-20000mAh-Charging-Replacement/dp/B0CDZNB954/ref=sxin_15_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.c5752f79-8747-4816-9200-c3f3add2f27d%3Aamzn1.sym.c5752f79-8747-4816-9200-c3f3add2f27d&crid=2B93PIB3Z2ZNQ&cv_ct_cx=portable+battery&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.I4luZiMhlCgcE7XMufw-_X6YTfBIxFYzNrS-inllvgVixJxNSMDGLfLlCu9x10OpnslfnHLfYhs__5ZThGXomw.P9N651k98592yt9aZBG2C4FNZEFtjDtJ4GFuXCcu1aM&dib_tag=se&keywords=portable+battery&pd_rd_i=B0CDZNB954&pd_rd_r=83534314-1780-45e7-b97b-58b5df9a6f7b&pd_rd_w=Egibb&pd_rd_wg=Y6cjs&pf_rd_p=c5752f79-8747-4816-9200-c3f3add2f27d&pf_rd_r=QYDYRVNJGNGSRZ6W84A8&qid=1711151078&sbo=Tc8eqSFhUl4VwMzbE4fw%2Fw%3D%3D&sprefix=portable+battery%2Caps%2C113&sr=1-3-9428117c-b940-4daa-97e9-ad363ada7940-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1>
>  
> (say about the size of the phone in a sturdy case) holds twice as much 
> energy, and even incorporates a charging plug. It's easy to chuck into a 
> bag, charge your phone off of it, use it as a wall plug in a hotel / on the 
> train, etc.  You don't even need to muck around with wiring on the bike or 
> a dyno hub at all. If you forego a dyno-powered light altogether, a battery 
> powered headlight will have 6+ hrs of its own battery life, and can be 
> charged off the portable battery. 
>
> In case you don't want to muck around with wires and connectors and all 
> that. But if someone's gonna do it all for you and anodize it nice colors, 
> then by all means! :-) 
>
> - Max "trying to unplug and plug it back in again" in A2
>
> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 6:36:58 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> Hi Leah -
>>
>> I have been riding 40mm tires on my custom and 44mm tires on my Quickbeam 
>> and have noticed no difference in performance - only in comfort. I would 
>> imagine 48mm tires would be no worse in performance and slightly more 
>> comfortable.
>>
>> Regarding the light and charging your phone - I have an Edelux II on my 
>> Hubbuhubbuhz. Given that my wife cannot be without her phone, we have a 
>> Sinewave Revolution wired directly to the Edelux II. This may eliminate the 
>> potential of wiring a taillight to the Edelux II - but we use rechargeable 
>> taillights; that's not a problem for us.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Corwin
>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 6:10:14 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have had some of the same questions tumbling about in my brain as I 
>>> wait for the last of the parts for my Gravel & Travel Platy. I just got 
>>> back from a warm and delightful weekend of cycling in Philadelphia. I, a 
>>> newly minted Michigander, was happy to return to the shire, and for that, I 
>>> was welcomed with Second Winter. 
>>>
>>> Michigan is over here, doing me dirty. 
>>>
>>> I’m prevailing upon you to humor me and answer my questions, because a 
>>> lot of you are having spring and flowers and sunshine, so this is the least 
>>> you could do!
>>>
>>> I got the 50 cm Platy to take on trips. Will fit in the van better, will 
>>> fit on Amtrak, be easier to shove in elevators, that sort of thing. But the 
>>> tires I have on hand are 48 mm Gravel Kings. They are almost new. I’m 
>>> considering taking a train to a ride this summer, but that means no Racing 
>>> Platypus, only the purple one can fit. Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road 
>>> ride pace? I have 42 on all my other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is 
>>> a 2 day event, 100 miles total. I’d like to keep the tires if I could, 
>>> because they’re new and they are fat enough to also double as gravel tires, 
>>> should I decide to do a gravel ride again. But I do more road rides than 
>>> anything else, and if those 48s will cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. 
>>> What’s the consensus?
>>>
>>> Basket straps. I have the Nitto Basket Rack and even though I’ve 
>>> disliked it in the past, I figure it’s pretty and I already own it and I 
>>> might need a front rack for travel. But do I really have to put the ugly 
>>> strap from bar to basket? Is the Nitto Basket Rack safer than the Mark’s 
>>> Rack? I know Sergio was thrown when his Mark’s Rack loosened and hit the 
>>> front tire and he’s missing significant chunks of front teeth! What is 
>>> everyone doing about their front racks?
>>>
>>> Lights. I have an Edelux light. It’s not the right color for this build, 
>>> but it’s perfectly good. But sometimes I think, “wouldn’t it be nice to 
>>> have a light that would charge your phone?” The Sinewave Beacon 2 will do 
>>> just that, but it sounds like it’s not a great road light. What are people 
>>> using to charge phones on long rides away from home?
>>>
>>> I ordered my wheels today. This, because J at the Velocity booth in 
>>> Philly talked me into them when he heard about the theme of my build. 
>>> Here’s a sneak peek.
>>>
>>> And thanks for helping me out here! It’s good to hear people’s 
>>> experiences and points of view!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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