@Roberta and Eric - Let me clarify how I was scammed. I posted here last July wanting to buy Blue Lug's *REW10 WORKS* hex brass valve caps here in the states to save myself some monies in overseas shipping costs.
Anita Batya saw my post and claimed that she had a pair. Anita told me that she lived in Seattle, of which is relatively close to me (This was a lie. She lived in Pennsylvania after doing some online homework after the fact). If I wanted them, she requested me to make a payment through a third party email address of which she claimed it was her bookkeeper. Anita told me that she was waiting for an answer from Paypal for a refund. I sent her money (I forgot what amount it was $50.00~?) several times. This kept going in circles over and over again. By then, I felt that there was something mighty strange and peculiar going on. I caught on that I was being scammed. I did not respond back to her. This was my first time being scammed over something that I really wanted. My apologies for there might be some holes left out from my recollection of my interaction with Anita. Later down the road, there was other members herein and over on the IBOB group being scammed by Anita. Skip Montanaro, the administrator accepted Anita Batya's membership. When I told Skip that she was/is a scammer, he quickly took action and denied her membership. https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/5FXmDXVSG6c/m/yGCjPQ3KBAAJ https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/WRzS3bBRKcc Kim Hetzel. On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:24:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote: > The "Jeff" in question reached out to me in response to a WTB post. I > asked what his "Friend" was selling and he said a 60cm Homer, which I > thought was strange considering my post specifically said 54/55/56cm. > > A quick check to see that he'd never posted in the forum and I assumed it > was nefarious. > > On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on >> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, >> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. >> >> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue >> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they >> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the >> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. >> >> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your >> interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* >> alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to >> be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a >> deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should >> be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for >> sale. >> >> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by >> searching their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they >> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of >> how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. >> >> Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! >> https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html >> >> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote: >> >>> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from >>> this person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was >>> selling his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and >>> pounces. Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect >>> or consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way. >>> Doug >>> >>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote: >>> >>>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a >>>> Homer as well! >>>> >>>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset. >>>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. >>>> Fortunately, I sent no payment. >>>> >>>> I also reported this to Admin. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I >>>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get >>>>> scammed? >>>>> >>>>> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy >>>>> directly from the seller. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @Brenton- >>>>>> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was >>>>>> not so. >>>>>> >>>>>> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com >>>>>> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can >>>>>> help you. >>>>>> >>>>>> My regards, >>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>> I got scammed too last year over these - >>>>>> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/ >>>>>> >>>>>> last year. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so >>>>>>> many pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, >>>>>>> that I feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> be bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via >>>>>>> *jeff00m...@gmail.com* who said they were friends with a seller >>>>>>> named "Leonard" and I gave my phone number to that emailer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 >>>>>>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they >>>>>>> told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the >>>>>>> bike, >>>>>>> they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this >>>>>>> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in >>>>>>>> my ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> " @Brenton - >>>>>>>> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a >>>>>>>> blue Homer under the owner's name of >>>>>>>> *Payton Beargrr* >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/user/33810597/?__cft__[0]=AZWM_HUDwICO-DZxRDgeH6PKEH27Q60_rtRW56T14XolOXVDtbhiBhqSs5IRAf2tQDooAhYlS1GgrtEsUMVFG9ZrTDTGQLgc2dwfiW-pCa6kFgLsLZXBqq6yep7jrikH2XvXt0mesTqEacdgnkqciYIV4VxMZbmA-_JjOgp9P2iC9Yu-ioEmc_h01k1sYLT7-4XapFpB_ZNlHwVe_6xRHXgq&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. >>>>>>>> Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made >>>>>>>> frame. I >>>>>>>> am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. >>>>>>>> -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post >>>>>>>> -Brooks saddle >>>>>>>> -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers >>>>>>>> -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters >>>>>>>> -Riv Silver double crankset >>>>>>>> -IRD front derailleur >>>>>>>> -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur >>>>>>>> -MKS Grip Monarch pedals >>>>>>>> -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims >>>>>>>> -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b >>>>>>>> -Sackville bag >>>>>>>> The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top >>>>>>>> tube, noted in the pictures. >>>>>>>> $2500 + shipping. >>>>>>>> Let me know if you have any questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton >>>>>>>> said owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments >>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>> owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and >>>>>>>> he wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, >>>>>>>> insane >>>>>>>> price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure >>>>>>>> tape >>>>>>>> to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a >>>>>>>> 54.5 based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our >>>>>>>> messages >>>>>>>> have been super cryptic. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just *HOPE* anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 >>>>>>>> doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any >>>>>>>> drama >>>>>>>> if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 >>>>>>>> months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on >>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>> way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9d7fa74f-3093-4c10-b38a-63aa4a200dafn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9d7fa74f-3093-4c10-b38a-63aa4a200dafn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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