Hey Wes, I'll look forward to seeing photos of that! I'm confused about 
your swap- you want country gravel or I80? 

Hey Michael, Urban NYC must require a whole different set of skills than 
cruising around the desert on trails or rivers. Here's a link to a GaiaGPS 
track with a few more  photos of the paddle. Another cool feature of this 
paddle is a herd of wild horses (mustangs) that come to the river to drink. 
I saw a small group of 15 or so and more solitary ones along the way. 
Apparently, they are descended from the Spanish horses set free in the 
1600s. You probably don't see too many of those in Central Park! 

Salt River Deux <https://www.gaiagps.com/public/Ob4im73iLd6P99sycfJI4mzz/>

I'll shoot a photo of the bike loaded with the raft when I paddle again on 
Monday. 

Cheers, John
On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:30:14 AM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> That looks incredible. More pictures and details please! It's the exact 
> opposite of my normal bike rides (urban NYC).
>
> M
>  
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 9:52:37 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> I’ve got a slow-developing project to create a bike raft out of a $40 
>> “inflatable camp lounger”. If I can raft 30 feet across an irrigation 
>> ditch, I can swap gravel country roads for 12 miles of commuting alongside 
>> interstate 80. I’ll let you know if it works.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:11 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Got it; again, sounds very interesting. I see that Alpacka boats retail 
>>> basically for the price of an entry-level Clem.
>>>
>>> I should probably buy an entry level Clem first, though.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 4:27 PM John Rinker <jwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Patrick. No trailer needed as, you guessed it, the raft rolls 
>>>> into a tidy little 5lb burrito and fits very nicely on the rack. In 
>>>> addition to the photos of the raft with the bike, I should have taken a 
>>>> photo of the bike with the raft on it!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, John
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:05:53 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That looks very tempting. I can't make out a trailer; does the boat 
>>>>> fold up small enought to be carried on a rack?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm 1/4 mile crow-directly west through bosque scrub from the Rio 
>>>>> Grande and it's an easy and pleasant ride north on a paved recreation 
>>>>> trail 
>>>>> to various possible insertion points. In fact, my next door neighbors 
>>>>> have 
>>>>> a couple of inflatable canoes which they generally drive north to entry 
>>>>> points, float back south, then drive the other car to pick up the first 
>>>>> one; tho' husband Chris some years ago did drive north, float south, then 
>>>>> rode his bike back north to get his car.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM John Rinker <jwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Sue, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't tried my boat without a bike yet, but I did paddle one a 
>>>>>> few years back *sans bicyclette *and I remember it being like any 
>>>>>> other raft without a keel- kind of squirreley. 
>>>>>> With the bike, however, it handles very nicely indeed. Alpacka makes 
>>>>>> other such rafts for use without a bicycle, and I imagine these track 
>>>>>> much 
>>>>>> better. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the bicycle is attached at 4 lashing points with Voile-type 
>>>>>> straps, and the wheels with bungee cords. It's all very solid and 
>>>>>> stable. 
>>>>>> If there was a chance that my bike would end up at the bottom of the 
>>>>>> river, 
>>>>>> I'd think twice. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe this photo shows it a bit better:
>>>>>> [image: IMG_3267 (1).jpeg]
>>>>>> Cheers, John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 8:13:40 AM UTC-7 Sue J wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John, I am curious to know how this craft behaves if there is no 
>>>>>>> bike in the bow. Did you give that a try?
>>>>>>> Also, do you secure the bike in the bow, or if you capsize would it 
>>>>>>> sink to the bottom of the waterway?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 7:19:46 AM UTC-7 Curtis wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like a great adventure.  Enjoy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Curtis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2024, 7:18 PM John Rinker <jwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After several months in a box, I finally took my pack raft for its 
>>>>>>>>> maiden voyage down the Salt River. 
>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3282.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>> I rode 20k out to the put-in, and in about 30 minutes was ready to 
>>>>>>>>> shove off. The Alpacka raft is a fine design that has exceeded my 
>>>>>>>>> expectations for comfort, stability, and maneuverability. My tall 
>>>>>>>>> bike and 
>>>>>>>>> body fit just fine. It's a super fun boat!
>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3271.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>> If you love riding and rivers, this is the way to go!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3308.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>> Cheers, John
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