Oh, one more very particular rule: If you are completely clueless about
something, try to grasp and accept this reality, and get a professional to
do the job. With my first bike build I had no idea that certain frames were
designed for certain wheel sizes, and I built up a frame that would take no
rim brake known to man. I rode it in hilly narrow roads with speeding
traffic and downtown with a freewheel and no brakes and only Bismarck's
"special providence" kept me alive. ("There's a special providence that
watches over fools, drunkards, children, and the United States of
America.") (I later came to what sense I had and had a coaster brake
installed.)

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:47 AM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alas, I think that the only way to get personal experience sufficient to
> learn how you really want to build up a bike is lengthy and expensive trial
> and error; at least, that's how I learned to know exactly what I want in a
> frame and in a build.
>
> So my recommendation would be:
>
> 1. If you want quick and convenient and relatively cheap with good
> results: let Rivendell do it.
>
> 2. If you are willing to spend money and time to learn what really works
> and what doesn't, by all means do it yourself.
>
> Apart from that, I have no particular advice except perhaps one thing:
> don't try to save money and hope that an iffy component might work as well
> as a proven but more expensive component. For example, if you know that you
> like Brooks saddles, don't buy a Nashbar saddle hoping that it might just
> work. Believe me, it's cheaper in the not-so-very long run just to buy what
> you already know works for you.
>
> Patrick "building bad bikes since December 1970 (Xmas vacation,
> southern-hemisphere mid-summer, sophomore year)" Moore.
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:32 AM Michael <mcanter1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle
>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike
>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically
>> inclined.
>>
>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a
>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been
>> wiser to just order it complete?
>>
>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something
>> stupid!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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