...if I wasn't. I have a beautiful 40 year-old Waterford Paramount finished
in a color called Neon Orchid. I made sure to get bottle of Schwinn
touch-up at the get-go and I've carefully nursed it along all these years
later. Kind of crazy. No way to match that color on your own.

Jock

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:45 AM John Dewey <johnrd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> George, you are correct. It's really tough, if not impossible to perfectly
> match metallics and 'candy' colors for want of a better word. You can get
> close enough to probably satisfy all but the perfectionists (like me), but
> it's a tough match. I'm probably on the fringes when it comes to scuffs and
> scratches...I often think my life would be easier if I
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:12 AM George Schick <bhim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting, this interaction between Riv and Testors. I'm sure a color
>> match could have been prepared especially for every Riv bike ever made...
>> *except* ...that first batch of orange metal flake Rams.  Since it was a
>> two pass base coat/clear coat (which is the way ever automobile is painted
>> nowadays), it would take two bottles of touch up paint to repair
>> scratches.  And it would be very difficult to apply them in such a way that
>> they pretty much blend with the rest of the bike's paint.  At least one
>> poster on this blog some time ago had one of these Ram's that needed a
>> repair of some sort.  He took it to a shop where they repaired the frame
>> damage then stripped down all the paint and repainted it in the original
>> base/clear coat colors that Jim references from House of Kolor.  But that
>> must have cost a fortune.  A single can of those paints, which only come in
>> sizable containers - quarts, at least - which must be mixed with a reducer
>> and then sprayed.  Most painters would be reluctant to do this because
>> they'd have to pay a lot just to get the paints and then they'd be stuck
>> with a lot of leftovers.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> Over the years, Rivendell paint schemes come and go (came and went)
>>> seemingly 'who-knows-whoever-whenever' saw fit. Metallics, metal flakes,
>>> basic solid 'enamels' (for want of a better word). Ever changing. I can't
>>> imagine anyone in Walnut Creek grabbing a small bottle of carefully
>>> inventoried touch-up off the shelf, packing it and shipping to you. Way too
>>> many colors have come and gone. And the work required to inventory,
>>> preserve, keep track of it all. Yikes.
>>>
>>> Turning the clock back, I picked up a call from GP (late 90s...early
>>> 2000s) while working in my office at Testors, the hobby paint company. We
>>> had long conversations, lots of emails passed between Testors and Riv with
>>> the intent of formulating touch-up paint for RBW (our) bikes. We could
>>> have, after all, matched any color anyone could possibly have wished for /
>>> conceived of. We were the best. Had plenty of beautiful little glass
>>> bottles, caps that insured paint good for decades when properly sealed up,
>>> and a willingness to get it done. As I recall now, years later, I sent way
>>> too many samples to count.
>>>
>>> It could have worked and in my position as the 'Testors guy'—and someone
>>> who still drinks the Rivendell 'Kool-Aid'—the program could have been
>>> successful.
>>>
>>> Alas, it didn't happen—and I never found out why.
>>>
>>> Never fear...you can, of course, wander into any hobby shop (assuming
>>> you still have one nearby—good luck with that) and apply your own
>>> paint-matching skills to get pretty damn close to any color. It's actually
>>> an interesting exercise...fully satisfying when you're successful.
>>>
>>> That is, for the couple dozen of us who really care that much.
>>>
>>> So, good luck y'all 🙃🚴
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:45 PM 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW
>>> Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> Would the Rambouillets being built in Japan have anything to do with
>>>> the shade of orange???   The Waterford colors seem to be the colors they
>>>> used for the Rivendell models they made.
>>>>
>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 4:54:44 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Orange Sam Hillbornes and Orange Rambouillets are both "sparkly
>>>>> metallic Orange" in color FAMILY.  They are not identical.  The
>>>>> multi-coated treatment of the Orange Rambouillets have been described as a
>>>>> "thousand dollar paint job".  Whether a scratch on an Orange Rambouillet
>>>>> could be made slightly less ugly with the $50 Hilborne Orange touchup from
>>>>> Waterford, that's up to the beholder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 1:35:04 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if the Sam Hilborne Orange is the same as
>>>>>> Rambouillet orange?
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:21:02 PM UTC-4 Roy Summer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes you can find nail polish that will match or come very
>>>>>>> close. Clear polish will help prevent rust if you can’t find a color 
>>>>>>> match.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:31:18 PM UTC-4 gds...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need Pea Sage Green. Got a "beusage" spot on my Romulus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024, 4:49 PM Zac <zachar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was checking the Gunnar/Waterford site to see if they had
>>>>>>>>> my paint color (I ordered a bottle when I first heard they were 
>>>>>>>>> shutting
>>>>>>>>> down, but it broke during a move) and noticed they added some Riv 
>>>>>>>>> colors:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Atlantis Green
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Cream
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Head Tube Ivory
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Homer Hilsen Blue
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Jay's Green
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Light Blue Met
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Light Green
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Pearly Arctic Blue
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Roadeo R
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Roadeo White
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Sage
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Sam Hilborne Orange
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the touch-up paint is now shipped in plastic bottles
>>>>>>>>> instead of glass like I received.
>>>>>>>>> https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/store/Touch-up-one-step-p579850196
>>>>>>>>>
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