By the way I think your bike fit looks fine.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 7:43:03 AM UTC-6 Gordon Stam wrote:

> John, It seems that those of us who are test fitting our bikes make 
> similar faces. It is, after all, serious business!
>
> And here is a link to a stem length calculator that I found handy during 
> the fit process: http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php . That one 
> happens to not be secure, but there are others, like this one: 
> https://www.myvelofit.com/stem-calculator/
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-6 Armand Kizirian wrote:
>
>> Difference in reach between the two models is only 1.5cm, you can adjust 
>> for it with stem length without an issue in the age of 80-135mm. I wouldn't 
>> trust any opinion on fit based on the photos you've provided, especially 
>> since your feet are floating. :D Only you know best. 
>>
>> Your PBH is within range for both sizes. It all depends what kind of fit 
>> you prefer, being "on" the bike (smaller size, more playful/nimble) or "in" 
>> the bike (larger size, more stable and relaxed). 
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2024-06-08 111731.png]
>> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 9:14:43 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's going to be hard to tell without riding.  Based on my own 
>>> experience and preferences, I'd guess you'll want to stretch out a little 
>>> more.  Either longer stem or less sweep on the bars.  Completely 
>>> speculation though.
>>>
>>> I'm a chronic cockpit tinkerer, and mess with bars and stem on at least 
>>> two of my bikes every year.  I've noticed one un-scientific constant every 
>>> time I get a setup feeling close to ideal:  if I draw an imaginary line 
>>> between my hands (where they grip the bar), and sight through that line 
>>> while riding, the bead from my eyes will almost exactly  intersect the axis 
>>> of the front hub.  I don't know what the connection is or why it always 
>>> turns out this way, but assume it has to do with weighting and stabilizing 
>>> the steering adequately.   It looks to me like you would be sighting behind 
>>> the axle as currently mocked up? 
>>>
>>>  Good news is that that that bike doesn't look too small.  In case you 
>>> were still worried you got the wrong size.
>>>
>>> Regarding a second:  I'd never try to talk someone out of a second riv.  
>>> But keep in mind that the susie is very different from other rivendell 
>>> models.    I think the lowered bb height of yours will help, compared to my 
>>> first run orange one, but bet its still quite different.  My AR, Ram, 
>>> Saluki, QB and Clem - though mostly older models - all have a 
>>> characteristic Riv "feel".  My Susie is completely different.  I'd consider 
>>> getting a different model for variety's sake.
>>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 11:54:24 PM UTC-6 johnwc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, just wanted a final opinion. 
>>>>
>>>> Here is the 50cm Susie I took delivery of. I've mocked this up with 26" 
>>>> Cliffhangers (I didn't have 27.5 rim brake set on hand), Ortho bars, 100mm 
>>>> Nitto stem, Brooks saddle. Saddle height is about 64/65cm and my PBH is 
>>>> about 78. 
>>>>
>>>> How does this fit look? Specifically, reach. 
>>>>
>>>> Without properly riding it, my first impression was that it felt 
>>>> ok-ish. Hard to tell without actually going for a ride. Didn't feel too 
>>>> stretched out and not really cramped either. 
>>>>
>>>> To throw another wrench in things, I have an opportunity to pickup a 
>>>> used 54cm Gus frame. Do I need to have a second Riv right now? No! But, we 
>>>> all know how bikes go. If anything, my partner could probably ride either 
>>>> frame so, it wouldn't be a lost cause. 
>>>> Maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to have 2 Rivs!! 
>>>>
>>>> Using the photos of me on the 50cm Susie, do you think a 54cm Gus would 
>>>> be too large? 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks y'all! 
>>>>
>>>>

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