Leah - Fantastic ride report. Your energy is so positive.  Love all the 
details. 

While you were away, we found an exquisite drop-bar bike for you: Rich's 
Roadeo <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/SxeeyQKb1oU>

On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-6 Scott Marriott wrote:

> Scott here. My wife was kind of roped into the ride by a friend and she 
> had a lot of fun. I actually mentioned to her that you bike was the 
> idealized version of the bike I'd like for her to ride, but she's resistant 
> to buying a Riv for herself. This one in the picture is a Trek 1984 420L 
> mixte which is a kind of a an odd-ball early trek. (Sadly not Reynolds or 
> Ishiwata, which would have made for a lighter bike.) The one actual direct 
> from Riv item on the bike is the thumb shifter mounted on top of the 
> handlebar close to the stem. Otherwise most of the bike is definitely 
> Riv-spired.  That said when I was picking up yesterday in New Buffalo I was 
> shocked to see so many boring (to me) bikes. It felt like at least 70% of 
> the bikes where some type of Trek Domaine variant, there were a few Surly's 
> and two Gunnar's, but I didn't see any vintage steel which was surprising.  
> Glad you had a nice ride. Any thoughts on another Chicago group ride?
>
> Scott Marriott, Chicago (Hyde Park)
> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 8:21:43 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi you guys,
>>
>> I am home from my first real bike adventure. It was pretty darn perfect.
>>
>> I got on Amtrak just great at Kalamazoo. I rode to the station and got 
>> there embarrassingly early. The agent helped me hoist the bike up the steep 
>> steps (nearly impossible for just me as the back had three heavy bags and 
>> the angle was practically vertical). He gave me premiere parking in the 
>> hallway! And he helped lift the bike down those same steep stairs at the 
>> ride’s end.
>>
>> Leif from this List reached out to me and invited me to ride with a group 
>> of his friends (and his wife). They were Chicagoan, experienced cyclists 
>> who had their own extras to put on the agenda and were welcoming to add-ons 
>> like me. I had never met Leif, but he was as nice as you might imagine and 
>> so was his wife. When do you ever decide to travel across state lines with 
>> 6 strangers and think that’s a safe idea? Only on a bike tour. 
>>
>> The friends rode a variety of bikes, several had drop bars and 2 of them 
>> were wearing kit. The rest of us were in normal clothes. Almost all of us 
>> were about the same age, which was really nice as we were all in similar 
>> stages of life. The group was SO kind and did not make me feel like an 
>> interloper at all. Accomplished, interesting people, they were enjoyable to 
>> chat with and I loved hearing about their lives. There were 2 married 
>> couples in the group and they were very happy to be on their bikes 
>> together. (Sweet!) This Tour de Shore was the leader’s 10th year doing it, 
>> and he had prepared fun side quests for us. We took an extra and more 
>> scenic departure from the city. Instead of eating PB&J at the SAG stop, we 
>> hit a great brewery for a real lunch. He knew the little food co-op to get 
>> the good ice cream bars from. These extras made the ride even more exciting.
>>
>> They all went camping, but I stayed in a hotel. I met them on the road 
>> for Day 2 and was so pleased it worked. I had to add an extra 2 miles to my 
>> route and frantically pedaled to get there in time because road 
>> construction took the bridge out on my route and I was detoured. We made 
>> good time today and rode pretty fast. We had 41 miles to do and we averaged 
>> 20.3 mph on mile 35, 19.6 mph on mile 36 and 18.7 mph on mile 38. Not bad 
>> for day two!
>>
>> The scenery was..well, I felt like we were in a movie. A lot of our route 
>> was on bike paths and quiet roads. We wound our way around the coast of 
>> Lake Michigan which, if never you’ve seen it, is teal (teal!!!) and like an 
>> inland ocean. There were grand beach houses and kind townspeople. There 
>> were wetlands and creeks and swamps and bridges. Serene bike paths under 
>> tunnels of arching trees. We saw every kind of person riding every kind of 
>> bike. I wish I had taken photos of the scenery but I dreaded causing a 
>> wreck so left my phone in its mount. 
>>
>> The SAG stops were fun - the first one was a giant pancake breakfast and 
>> you caught your pancakes on your plate as the cook sent them sailing 
>> towards you in the air. The facilities were plush and we lacked nothing.
>>
>> The Amtrak ride home did not offer the princess treatment at New Buffalo. 
>> The agent stood by while I tried to hoist the bike nearly vertically (have 
>> you seen how steep the steps are?!) and fully loaded. A bystander lifted 
>> the saddle and I was in. There were two other bikes in the hallway and I 
>> had to put mine against them. But the Backabikes padded the frame and no 
>> paint was chipped. The agent must have felt a little bad because he did 
>> help me guide the bike off the train.
>>
>> A few hot tips from your novice tour-er RivSister.
>> 1. Cotopaxi packing cubes. Highest praise! I got everything (full 
>> make-up! 3 days of clothing!) into my Backabikes using those cubes. They 
>> just make everything fit and they are so convenient. I wanted for nothing.
>>
>> 2. Kickstands. If and when I get a road bike I can tell you right now it 
>> will have a kickstand. I don’t care about the weight or that it’s profane 
>> to pollute a pure road bike with one - I have seen too much. People were 
>> propping bikes up and I was watching them smash onto asphalt and concrete. 
>> No thank you.
>>
>> 3. Bring food. They ran out of breakfast at our first SAG stop today. We 
>> all had enough food to make it through until we could eat. But I’d hate to 
>> be out there bonking.
>>
>> 4. Electrolyte tabs. It was hot enough that one of our group was cramping 
>> up. I gave him some Nuun tabs but he must have been pretty behind on his 
>> lytes because he was full-body cramping even after taking them.
>>
>> 5. Arm sleeves. They have cooling ones on Amazon and they were great for 
>> keeping me from being sunburned and feeling cool in hot weather.
>>
>> I’m making a video for IG that will also tell the story. I’ll post it 
>> later. I made it home this evening under my own power - no cars were used 
>> on this bike adventure. I pedaled home from the station and am back at my 
>> post. Three days, about 140 miles, two time zones and three states. How can 
>> I go back to normal life now?
>>
>> Bonus: RIV CONTENT! 
>> At the start in downtown Chicago, this darling woman rolled her bike 
>> towards me. 
>> “You’re my kind of girl!” I called to her, seeing her pink tires and 
>> bamboo fenders and dyno.
>> “Oh, my husband does all this to my bike and he’s overkill,” she said.
>> “Well he is wonderful!” I said.
>> A few minutes later she said, “I think my husband knows you.” Apparently 
>> he is Scott on this list. Scott, are you out there? Youth have good taste 
>> in bike things and this lady is lucky!
>>
>> [image: cid:295B4337-70D9-4A7B-ABED-9948C6EDFAE6-L0-001]
>> [image: cid:A3C65E4B-D52A-4736-BC14-B9865F1D85EE]
>>
>> At the finish, this man approached me. He’s also on the List and he has 
>> this 23 year old Romulus!
>> [image: cid:A4CE14FF-6296-45C7-A170-C0B05AFBC370-L0-001]
>>
>> Lastly, the leader of our group was interested in my bike. He knows a 
>> little about Rivendell. He rides a Lemond that he has had forever. He likes 
>> a steel bike. Did Riv make a Platypus that wasn’t a mixte because what do 
>> the men ride? I had to tell him all about how Riv has made you all converts 
>> and you men are all out there riding your Clems and Platys now. And he was 
>> a quick believer. “I think she’s convinced me,” he said to the group after 
>> test riding my bike. He’s 6’3” but he could still tell this bike is awesome.
>> [image: cid:074BC5A8-D4E0-4EB5-959F-92D17356EEFC-L0-001]
>>
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who helped me with their Amtrak tips and bolstered my 
>> courage to even try this. You are good, kind people and I am grateful to 
>> you.
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi you guys,
>>
>> I am home from my first real bike adventure. It was pretty darn perfect.
>>
>> I got on Amtrak just great at Kalamazoo. I rode to the station and got 
>> there embarrassingly early. The agent helped me hoist the bike up the steep 
>> steps (nearly impossible for just me as the back had three heavy bags and 
>> the angle was practically vertical). He gave me premiere parking here:
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> Leif from this List reached out to me and invited me to ride with a group 
>> of his friends (and his wife). They were experienced cyclists who had their 
>> own extras to put on the agenda and were welcoming to add-ons like me. I 
>> had never met Leif, but he was as nice as you might imagine and so was his 
>> wife. When do you ever decide to travel across state lines with 6 strangers 
>> and think that’s a safe idea? Only on a bike tour.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2024, at 11:22 AM, RichS <rshann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's rock star service Leah. I bet you made that agent's day! Have a 
>> nice trip.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 1:07:47 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I have no doubt that your excitement is both evident and refreshing for 
>>> the employees you're interacting with and will pave the way for a great 
>>> weekend! It's been years since I took Amtrak with my bike but now I'm very 
>>> much feeling the itch. I would be taking the Cascades route down to 
>>> Portland again - such a fun trip and multi-modal travel by train and bike 
>>> is the BEST. Nothing else compares. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 8:39 AM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The adventure begins! I had a feeling you might get lucky with a roomy 
>>>> train and helpful helpers in that Michigander way they have about them. 
>>>> Have a lovely time, Leah! 🙂🙋‍♂️
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 7:51:58 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Guys, they’re being so nice to me! They carried my bike up the steep 
>>>>> train steps, they told me to put it in a great place. No bags removed. 
>>>>> [image: image3.jpeg]
>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>>>> I told the agent I was so excited and thanks for helping me and he has 
>>>>> been over here 10 times to point out everything he knows about anything. 
>>>>> This is GREAT!
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, check this out. Seen as I wandered the train cars.
>>>>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 13, 2024, at 12:33 AM, Timothy Hurley <timothyja...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On the Amtrak trains in the DC/NYC/Boston corridor you have to take 
>>>>> the front wheel off and hang the bike on a hook. I'm not sure if it's the 
>>>>> same everywhere, but fenders might be more of a problem than a long bike. 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> can second that the conductors don't care about the dimensions of your 
>>>>> bike 
>>>>> unless it's something crazy. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:02:00 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Ryan, same thoughts! I’m staying in a hotel. I’m not much of a 
>>>>>> camper. I feel like the Canucks might think that’s rather weak of me. 🫣
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice 
>>>>>> and take the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 
>>>>>> 61 
>>>>>> miles is not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with 
>>>>>> possible wind and heat issues...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have fun
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the 
>>>>>>> situation better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer 
>>>>>>> Platy 
>>>>>>> and try to deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't 
>>>>>>> sound 
>>>>>>> like it'll be much of a problem.
>>>>>>> Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the 
>>>>>>> Summer time.  More power to him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to 
>>>>>>>> drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was 
>>>>>>>> taking 
>>>>>>>> my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of 
>>>>>>>> state 
>>>>>>>> for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in 
>>>>>>>> New 
>>>>>>>> Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to 
>>>>>>>> get me, 
>>>>>>>> and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer 
>>>>>>>> college 
>>>>>>>> physics study time. Yes, seriously.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender 
>>>>>>>> strut that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s 
>>>>>>>> work 
>>>>>>>> to get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on 
>>>>>>>> long 
>>>>>>>> rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key 
>>>>>>>> than 
>>>>>>>> in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, 
>>>>>>>> too-long 
>>>>>>>> Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick <bhi...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner 
>>>>>>>> I have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or 
>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>> you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you 
>>>>>>>> planning 
>>>>>>>> to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that 
>>>>>>>> you'd 
>>>>>>>> be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New 
>>>>>>>> Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this 
>>>>>>>> ride, 
>>>>>>>> since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't 
>>>>>>>> make a 
>>>>>>>> big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm 
>>>>>>>> sure 
>>>>>>>> you'll be just fine out there with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy 
>>>>>>>>> is too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, 
>>>>>>>>> if you 
>>>>>>>>> are rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask 
>>>>>>>>> because 
>>>>>>>>> it would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to 
>>>>>>>>> Kzoo 
>>>>>>>>> after the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, 
>>>>>>>>> so I 
>>>>>>>>> don’t know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, 
>>>>>>>>> let me know. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is 
>>>>>>>>> for, but that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I 
>>>>>>>>> want 
>>>>>>>>> my 700c wheels with the 42mm tires!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>>>>
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