I'd recommend at least 20" Voile straps. metal or nylon buckle, they both are great. The nice thing about Voile straps over woven straps or bungees is that slight bit of stretch that they have. It's not too much (like a bungee), but just the right amount to get a tight grip and lock into the tab on the buckle. I never feel like a Voile strap will lose its grip once tightened down, and I've never had them mar any surfaces.
Brian Lex KY On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 12:23 PM Brian Forsee <bmfor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ditto what John said. I've used 20" metal buckle and 15" nylon buckle. > Nylon buckle for sure won't mark up anything but i haven't had that problem > with the metal ones. Also have used the velcro strap that comes w surly > tires. Johns Irish strap or a toe strap would also do the trick just fine. > Brian > On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 11:10:23 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote: > >> SeanMac, >> >> I have 20" straps with aluminum buckles. 15" would work, I'm sure, and I >> don't imagine the nylon buckles would be any less effective. Titan also >> makes good straps. >> >> Cheers, John >> >> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 7:20:49 AM UTC-7 SeanMac wrote: >> >>> I have a 1up that I use with my Cheviot. I am really intrigued by the >>> setup that John R and Brian have used, as that method looks much more >>> stable than simply using the foam fender attachment that I have used in the >>> past [though that system has worked just fine]. I have never used a voile >>> strap before, but now I feel like I should. What length would users >>> suggest that I order? It appears that they are available in 15, 20, or 25 >>> inch sizes. Nylon or aluminum buckles? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Sean >>> Buffalo, NY >>> >>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 11:20:40 AM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I use the same method as John R for my fendered bikes on my 1up and >>>> have had good results. You could even replace the nylock nut for the bolt >>>> that holds the 'spool' with a wingnut to make it quicker to move. I agree a >>>> strap over the rear rim is necessary with the arm/spool beneath the fender. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I don't think there is a perfect rack for >>>> racked/fendered/swept back handlebar bikes. They all present inherit >>>> challenges to carrying your bike on a car. The 1up style rack is about as >>>> good as it gets IMO. One big advantage it has to other styles is the >>>> ability to adjust the bikes placement on the rack tray to eliminate >>>> interference between bikes, as well as being able to run the bikes in >>>> either direction. I often run bikes with the handlebars on the same side, >>>> which is not an option on other racks. >>>> >>>> brian >>>> >>>> On Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 1:39:00 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Much obliged for the info John. Makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2024 at 1:25:57 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey John, Yes, the front wheel roller is at maximum height and grabs >>>>>> the wheel solidly. At the rear, the spool is slightly above the rear axle >>>>>> level, but still too low for my comfort. I always put a Voile strap >>>>>> around >>>>>> the rear wheel and the rack tray. The danger is that a bump in the road >>>>>> will lift the rear wheel beyond the rack spool. My experience with the >>>>>> rack >>>>>> over the past 2 years makes me confident that the strap does its job in >>>>>> this regard. We've traveled some rough roads and so far, so good. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, John >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, August 1, 2024 at 10:49:36 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John, thanks for the photos. It appears you are not concerned about >>>>>>> placing the arms of the rack at the minimum height than 1UP deems >>>>>>> "safe"? >>>>>>> Unless I'm mistaken, they argue that where the arms grab the tire/fender >>>>>>> should be at least at axle level, better above axle level, for properly >>>>>>> securing bike to rack. Maybe your front rack arm is higher? Or is it >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> just grabbing the wheel below the level of the fender? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Befendered Sam rider John >>>>>>> Portland, OR >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2024 at 3:50:16 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no new information, but I can confirm that the 1UP racks are >>>>>>>> entirely suitable for fendered bikes. I'll also second Johnny Alien's >>>>>>>> sentiment about less plastic- the 1UP racks are all metal, of superb >>>>>>>> design, and very easy to use. >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3685.JPG][image: IMG_3686.JPG] >>>>>>>> While it may not be necessary, I do place a strap on the wheel and >>>>>>>> rack tray...just because I like straps! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bed87211-9382-4713-92ca-fc5cb32216d3n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bed87211-9382-4713-92ca-fc5cb32216d3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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