The OP believes there is an obvious design flaw that the seat tube water 
bottle isn't more easily accessible on lots of bikes.  

This confuses me. To those who need/want a higher mounted seat tube water 
bottle on their bikes: what exactly is the use case?  

a. I run ONLY a seat tube water bottle for some really good reason, and I 
therefor it should be super accessible, because it's my only source of 
ride-hydration
b. I run two different drinks and have to have easy access at BOTH to 
manage my hydration strategy
c. I always drink from the seat tube bottle FIRST for some really good 
reason, and use the down tube bottle as the back up, so the seat tube 
bottle needs to be super accessible 
d. some other use case

For me, and I assumed for most other cyclists, the seat tube bottle is not 
for drinking.  The down tube bottle is for drinking.  When the down tube 
bottle is empty, then I move the seat tube bottle to the down tube, and 
THEN that bottle is for drinking.  In other words, it's a STORAGE location, 
not an ACCESSIBILITY location, for my use-case.  When I grab for a bottle, 
19 out of 20 times it's the down tube bottle.  I only grab the seat tube 
bottle when it's time to swap.  For storage, I prefer efficiency, and down 
the seat tube gets it out of the way and that makes sense to me.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA



On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 7:00:58 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> i'm ready for the answer to be so obvious that I assume this is a dumb 
> question. 
>
> So often, on many bike frame, but also on Riv's - the bottle bosses on the 
> seat tube straddle where the derailleur clamp would go. 
>
> however, almost AS often as I see this, I also see plenty of real estate 
> for them to exist ABOVE said clamp area, where they'd no doubt be more 
> easily accessed by a rider.
>
> why? it seems so obviously a design flaw, but surely I'M the one in the 
> wrong.
>

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