Hi all, this is actually my first post. I’ll send another introductory post soon but I wanted to respond to this.
I live in the East bay so I actually tested out the Charlie Gallup a few days ago. It definitely has a kickstand plate. I loved the ride. I’m originally a roadie and was thinking about getting a Roadini next month but decided to try out the Gallup just for fun. I was blown away by it. You can really feel the flex but in a springy way. I rode it on two different days just to be sure and decided to get one. It’s the ultimate comfortable road bike that’s still light and fast. Even though it’s meant for swept back bars, I think drops will be perfect for it as long as I get the right stem length. Anyway, my two cents worth. Ryan On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 9:40 AM Dorothy C <[email protected]> wrote: > You are right - I called and spoke to James, the Gallop does have a > kickstand plate > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2024 at 5:56:28 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > >> I think the Charlie does have a kickstand plate? I could be mistaken, I >> saw a photo of the BB area that looked like there was none but this photo >> from the Riv product page leads me to believe that it's there, but was just >> out of frame in the other photo because of the long chainstays. >> >> [image: Screen Shot 2024-10-30 at 5.52.26 PM.png] >> >> On Saturday 26 October 2024 at 07:38:53 UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote: >> >>> [image: IMG_3208.jpeg]G Ram >>> One consideration I would have for a commuting bike is a kickstand plate >>> - the Charlie and Roadini don’t have that. I own a 47cm Roadini (650b) that >>> I was able to make work with the Soma chainstay mounted kickstand if I am >>> careful about what I have on the bike, but my 50cm Roadini (700c) wouldn’t >>> work with a Greenfield aftermarket plate or the Soma - they kept loosening, >>> and I was afraid of mashing the chainstays if I tightened them any more. >>> This was with Newbaums or strips of leather underneath. >>> Homer, Platy, Sam, Clem, Roaduno, Atlantis, all of those come with >>> kickstand plates. >>> >>> I have a multi modal commute on the train where the main bike support >>> for a stack of up to three bikes is a strap round the upper part of the >>> bike. There are wheel straps at the side, but they are fiddly to reach >>> without kneeling on the floor. This is on Metrolink in Los Angeles. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 25, 2024 at 6:14:24 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> FWIW, I think Riv is very conservative in their weight ratings. Even >>>> their "light" offerings are very sturdy. I am 275 lbs and have owned >>>> several of their bikes and never had a problem. That includes a 61cm >>>> Roadeo and 61cm Roadini. Both were pretty stiff even with my weight. I >>>> road both mostly on pavement, but also on some light gravel trails around >>>> the City (Denver). I put maybe 10-15 extra pounds on the Roadini in a rear >>>> saddlebag and no issues. Actually the most flexible Riv I had was a 64cm >>>> Clem L, which is probably understandable given the low stepover and very >>>> long effective top tube length. I used to load that one up with groceries >>>> all the time in a front basket - probably another 20 pounds. It was fine, >>>> but a bit flexy. >>>> >>>> -Ryan >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 5:32:01 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> FWIW. I’ve never toured but for decades I’ve carried heavy rear >>>>> pannier loads (up to 50 lb) on lightweight frames including 2 Riv custom >>>>> roads, a Ram, a heavy but very noodley Raleigh Technium (once carried ~20 >>>>> lb of library books in a tall stack in my left pannier, nothing on right, >>>>> across town), and on my best rear load carrier of them all, a very light, >>>>> *tout >>>>> 531* 1973 Motobecane Grand Record racing frame. Tubus Fly or custom >>>>> racks. There was often a bit of tail wag — but less on the Motobecane for >>>>> some reason! -- but apart from long distances on very rough roads I’d not >>>>> worry too much about it. >>>>> >>>>> IME and IMO, Rivendells are overbuilt for riders well under 200 lb and >>>>> I’d not worry about it. >>>>> >>>>> If I’m going to carry more than 30 lb on the current Riv-cloned 2020 >>>>> Matthews with thinnish wall, normal gauge 531 tubing I do prefer to spread >>>>> the load over front and rear panniers, say 20/30 f/r. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick “currently about 170” Moore >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 2:14 PM Jason Fuller <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Based on my experience with the CHG prototype I had, the Susie I >>>>>> have, and the frame geo and tubing on the production CHG - I am willing >>>>>> to >>>>>> bet it will have quite a noticeable flex to the frame, but I don't mean >>>>>> that in a negative way at all, quite the contrary! But if you commute >>>>>> with >>>>>> one heavier pannier like I do, it might feel weird. I found the Charlie >>>>>> to >>>>>> become overly noodly if I had stuff in my front basket and a pannier out >>>>>> back. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that if you wanted to run a rear rack (Nitto 32R would be >>>>>> perfect) and pair of panniers as a typical max load, the Charlie will be >>>>>> perfect. If you want to be able to run a pair of panniers out back and >>>>>> then >>>>>> a sizeable load up front as well, I would wait for a Hillborne. Keeping >>>>>> all the load at one end will minimize the additional stresses on the >>>>>> frame >>>>>> and I wouldn't personally worry about even heavier loads in those >>>>>> panniers >>>>>> (though I'd ride a little more gingerly at those times) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday 24 October 2024 at 09:37:05 UTC-7 Donzaemon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been wondering about weight limit myself. I have an AHH and >>>>>>> weigh around 160 lb and have thought about doing some light touring with >>>>>>> it. I wouldn't characterize the tubing as delicate at all and I feel >>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>> confident I can take what I think is an average loadout with it. Almost >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> of my gear is midrange except for maybe my 2p tent which is roughly 2.5 >>>>>>> lbs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am also in the ~150 lb range, and for my A Homer Hilsen, I never >>>>>>>> felt any flex until I loaded about 20-25 lbs of groceries in the back. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> bike felt sprightly with the weight in the back. I don't know if the >>>>>>>> spring-like feeling I got riding out of the saddle is planing, but it >>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>> felt good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm guessing that the Charlie is built for ~185 lbs if not more, so >>>>>>>> I personally would not hesitate to add 20 lbs on a rear rack and >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>> 5-10 for the front (for your weight). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Toshi in Oakland >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d27d327c-ed51-4628-b64d-ee4a05a62ba7n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d27d327c-ed51-4628-b64d-ee4a05a62ba7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other >>>>> writing services >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>>> >>>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>>> >>>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>>> >>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/CfgJTL61XHw/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b9bf99ca-2be5-4653-ab57-4c2d5c758278n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b9bf99ca-2be5-4653-ab57-4c2d5c758278n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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