What "shop scales" did you inherit?  Is it the kind with a hook that weighs 
the whole bike?  Digital/analog/both?  Did you get a gram scale for small 
parts?

The thing to buy, IMO is a food scale.  They are super affordable, and 
accurate enough, and typically have a capacity up to 5kg (11 pounds), so 
there is no individual part on a build that you can't weigh.  Once you've 
got a food scale, it opens up a whole new way to follow recipes for dry 
ingredients that have variable density.  Things like flour or chopped herbs 
don't lend themselves to volumetric portioning, but the weight is pretty 
reliable.  It's a great tool in the kitchen for people who like to follow 
recipes.  You free-form-jazz cooks who use the recipe as a suggestion would 
likely disapprove of that regimentation.  :)

Like I said at the beginning, trying to make a heavy build light can be a 
tough task, unless maybe you are already content to take everything off, 
weigh every piece, and then scatter those bits to other parts of your 
stable, and start a brand new ground-up build.  If you are frugal, and 
don't have the ability or the will to let go of "perfectly good" pieces 
that happen to be heavy, then you may be better off adopting the healthier 
attitude that the weight of your bike has nothing to do with your enjoyment 
of a bike ride.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 2:38:21 AM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

> Jumping in as this tails off, but recently I inherited some shop scales 
> and started weighing everything. 
> It has only just occurred to me how light our Rivendells generally are in 
> the grand scheme of things. Rim brakes really do make a difference in how 
> light the forks can be built and that seems to be a huge factor in overall 
> weights.
> Just something that's been on my radar lately, I have been planning on 
> trying to get my Homer as light as possible now that it has been retired 
> from commuter duty. Excited to see a lightweight build to get the ideas 
> flowing!
>
> On Tuesday, 26 November 2024 at 22:21:15 UTC+8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ha ha.  I guarantee Grant will approve of my build.  I'd wager on it.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 5:40:11 AM UTC-8 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> For real! I was just thinking the same thing.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:21 AM Johnny Alien <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Grant is so disappointed in this group right now
>>>>
>>>

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