Hello Liz,

After you've tried the very sage advice already given (except getting rid 
of your Silver Shifters!), if you're still having problems perhaps you can 
look at the derailleur hanger and make sure it's not slightly bent. 

Your ghost shifting in the 'highest 3 gears' is the opposite of my ghost 
shifting in the 3 lowest gear, but mine also occurred going up or cresting 
hills. In the end, I discovered that this issue was fixed when I diagnosed 
a bent hanger and straightened it.

I also have Silver Shifters and these were definitely not the problem in my 
case.

Cheers, John

On Monday, January 6, 2025 at 11:12:22 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote:

> Oh gosh…it seems I have some detective work cut out for me, but I do see 
> some hope for resolution.
>
> I’m gonna try to diagnose the problem by using Bill “tapebubba’s” 
> suggestion first…just as soon as I can shovel a path to my garage. :) 
> I’ll let you know what I find. 
>
> Until Bill “schralp” said he’s got this same issue while using Shimano 
> thumbies, I was leaning simply toward replacing the Silver Shifters, but 
> now I’m not sure that’s the culprit. I wish I could simply replace the 
> shifters and fix the problem and ride happily ever after and never look 
> back…I guess I always want the easiest fastest fix, but then I don’t learn 
> much. 
>
> I’d love to forward this thread to the mechanics at my bike shop but I 
> have to figure out how to do that. 
>
> Liz in Cincinnati
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 6, 2025 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-5 schralp wrote:
>
>> Mine does the same thing and I’m using shimano thumbies. I think it’s the 
>> hub based on the way it feels but haven’t investigated. 
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 7:45 AM [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Your thoughts on a skipping/slipping/floating chain and gear, please.
>>>
>>> In late November 2024. I received my newly built up Platypus from C&L 
>>> Cycles in Montreal. I love it beyond description. However, there’s one very 
>>> frustrating issue that I can’t figure out and wonder what insight you 
>>> friends might have about it.
>>>
>>> From the get-go, the gears have slipped. Yes, I’m using friction Silver 
>>> Shifters, and I’ve spent a lot of time eliminating myself as the problem 
>>> here. But I’ve ALWAYS used friction shifters on every bike (other than my 
>>> Clem) and I’m not a klutz, and I’ve tried really really hard to be land 
>>> these gear changes, but this problem just keeps happening. I’ve put 
>>> probably 200 miles on the Platypus and I’ve not taken a single ride on it 
>>> that this has not been a problem. 
>>>
>>> The issue occurs on the rear 9-gear cassette and almost always in the 
>>> highest 3 gears…especially when going uphill or cresting a hill, but not 
>>> always. 
>>>
>>> Sometimes the chain seems to simply float EVEN WHEN I’M NOT PEDALING, 
>>> and then it lands wherever it wants without my touching the shifter.
>>>
>>> This is driving me nuts because I adore this bicycle and this problem is 
>>> making me lose trust. It’s not safe to ride in the kind of traffic I ride.
>>>
>>> I’ve taken the bike to my local bike shop, and we’ve changed the chain, 
>>> but the issue continues. 
>>>
>>> (I’m pretty sure no one at the bike shop is actually riding the Playtpus 
>>> very far, which is disappointing…because I’m convinced that if they ride it 
>>> far enough they would experience the problem. But I can’t force them to 
>>> take it for a long ride in cold and sloppy weather, so now I’m considering 
>>> next moves.)
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of any issues like this with the Silver Shifters? I’m 
>>> considering replacing them with Shimano. Or maybe a new cassette? Maybe an 
>>> 8-gears cassette—which is what I have on my trusty Atlantis and with which 
>>> I’ve never had an issue with shifting. 
>>>
>>> I sent an email to Rivendell yesterday, which they should read some time 
>>> today, but I thought I might get somewhere with this group, too. 
>>>
>>> Liz (who probably isn’t a klutz, but the thought still lingers that it 
>>> might be me but it’s not), snowbound in Cincinnati
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