Coco, et al:

Glad you bumped this as I managed to miss it earlier.

I have read Grant's Eat Bacon and Don't Jog as it appealed to my laziness 
and love of Bacon. Enjoyed it immensely, and I've been on a health journey 
for a number of years now. Started on 'Wheat Belly' diet as my wife was 
diagnosed pre-crones and we thought we'd experiment on ourselves 
eliminating bread. We were both hugely addicted to wheat to the extent we 
found a artisanal bakery that baked the most delish sourdough. Every 
Saturday we'd hop on our bikes at the crack of dawn to make the run to the 
bakery to buy enough to get us thru the week. This was a cash only business 
that opened one day a week at 5am and sold out by 10am. Crack dealers wish 
they had it so good. 

Giving up bread was about as hard at quiting smoking. Ask me how I know.

Two years ago, whilst searching these archives for information on the Rive 
Rambouillet I came across Grant's interview of Mark Sisson. What he had to 
say resonated and led us to try eliminating almost all carbs. Pasta, 
potatoes, most veggies. The only veggies we now consume are fermented. My 
wife never really got along with alcohol and I quit several years ago. I 
see a new study implicates it in cancer cause. 

Our one carb addiction we have not been able to shake just yet is Hagan 
Daz. 75g of carbs brought to us by sugar. Sugar is highly addictive proven 
by the fact that lab rats prefer it over cocaine. 

So our diet consists of meat (preferably rib eye steaks), fermented veggies 
and ice cream. 

Both of us have lost considerable weight and are near our targets. 

We both love to cook and so occasionally we'll treat ourselves to something 
complicated like pumpkin pie, but honestly neither of us miss the hassle of 
side dishes or complicated recipes.

I have recipes for kimchi, air fryer pork chops and chicken but to most 
people it might be boring. 

The addiction to carbs is far stronger than alcohol and smoking, imho. Ask 
me why I believe that.

The best part of this story and maybe the part most relevant to this group 
is my lack of the need for snacks. Our bodies burn fat better and more 
efficiently than carbs/sugar. Our bodies convert carbs to sugar so I use 
the two interchangeably here. Both are addictive and quite unnecessary as 
fuel. Fat and protein are far more efficient. 

I have discovered that I don't required snacks even on rides over 60 miles. 
I used to not be able to ride 10 miles without eating a snack. I would 
start bonking at about 8 miles. It has been liberating to not have to worry 
about having that candy bar tucked somewhere for the inevitable hunger. I 
am fully adapted to burning fat and ketone, and I love it. 

I have spent years researching diet and health. I am enrolled now in 
Sisson's Primal Health Coaching School and will receive a health coach 
certificate soon. 

So the best recipe I could offer at this point is for you to adopt a 
keto/carnivore diet and then not have to worry about recipes for on bike 
snacks. 

If you have made it this far thank you for letting me vent a little. 

If anyone is remotely interested in any of this journey please dm me.

Thanks

James Poulson
at the edge of the Ozarks

On Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 8:47:35 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

> This sounds super cool! Would love to read some of these.
>
> Franco Rinaldi 
> c:  646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> 
>
> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message-
>
> On Jan 7, 2025, at 9:27 AM, Coco Menk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey all! Hope everyone is having a great start to 2025.
>
>
> Bumping this thread - have made some progress in starting to format the 
> zine/pdf! If anyone else wants to contribute any recipes please feel free!
>
> I'll re-post the original prompt for reference: 
>
> *1) How many of you all have read Grant's Eat Bacon, Don't Jog? Anyone 
> subscribe to his food ideas or any other "alternative" diets? Cyclists tend 
> to be pretty health-conscious and independent minded, just curious what 
> kinds of ideas people are jiving with these days. Vegan? No-carb? 100-mile 
> diet? Anything goes? I love hearing about what works for people. I know 
> Grant's book has definitely informed my own choices a bit, specifically in 
> regards to processed sugar and carbs and simpler forms of exercise. (Not 
> looking to sh** on which diet is working or not working for anyone at this 
> time! Save that for a different thread)*
>
> *2) I'd love to compile a collection of favorite recipes! What do you make 
> for yourselves/your families? What's your favorite sandwich you bring on 
> your bike rides? Any bike tour go-to's?*
>
> I have about 15 recipes so far. Would love to compile it into a PDF that 
> folks can print at home
>
> Cheers
> Coco
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 10:37:50 PM UTC-7 Coco Menk wrote:
>
>> Brendon - that one is on my list for sure! Familiar with a lot of the 
>> current politics surrounding UPFs but haven't gotten around to reading it 
>> yet. What was your biggest takeaway?
>>
>> For anyone else interested in learning more abour those issues and/or 
>> MORE ennui surrounding the horrors of the American Food System and 
>> Agribusiness Robber Barons check out:
>>
>> Marion Nestle's blog Food Politics (she is unrelated to Nestle of 
>> Nesquick fame)
>> https://www.foodpolitics.com/
>>
>> Food Fix weekly newsletter specifically about food politics journalism in 
>> the US, lots of baby formula and school lunch and SNAP policy updates if 
>> you REALLY want some angst
>> https://foodfix.co/
>>
>> Eric Schlosser, Fast Food Nation. Pretty much nothing has changed, its 
>> only gotten worse
>>
>> Coco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 7:33 PM brendonoid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone in this thread should please read *Ultra-Processed People* by 
>>> Chris van Tulleken. It is the only food/diet book anyone really needs to 
>>> read.
>>> You'll never have to worry about extreme or fad diets ever again. 
>>> Prepare for extreme ennui about everything you have tried up to the point 
>>> you read this book.
>>>
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