The original 56cm steel Albatross bars were their best all around swept back bar, in my oh-pinion :) !
Besides, the Clem is not meant to be a bike of accomodating every personal limitation. No bike is, or ever could be. I like that they've changed things up with different parts. The DT shifter boss housing stops have been around since at least the 90's. I think Riv started selectively ditching brazed on bosses along with rear canti brake bridge cable stops with the intro of the Clems. Shifters are indeed more crisp when used at the DT as they were designed ! They were never meant for bar ends or tops. Suntour and later Shimano had dedicated shifters for both of those, and the diameters of the ratcheting mechanism was larger than the DT variety, to hold the gears better no doubt, and they do. On Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 12:18:01 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > Correct, I'm just expressing an opinion. Billies are wonderful and I would > still have one on my custom if my arthritic wrists didn't need so much > height. They're certainly prettier than Boscos, another opinion! > > On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 8:58:24 PM UTC-8 philip....@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Perfect for YOU. >> >> I’m sure there are plenty of people, like ME, who would say the same >> thing about a Billie! >> >> That’s the thing, they can’t please everyone. >> >> But you can always buy a different bar. >> >> And probably sell the one it came with on here! >> >> P. W. >> ~ >> (917) 514-2207 >> ~ >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:51 PM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> @Joe, >> >> I, too do not understand the handlebar change either. The Nitto Bosco >> bars are perfect for an upright riding position. >> >> Kim Hetzel. >> >> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 11:38:05 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> I don't understand the bar change either, Clems are just right with >>> Boscos. >>> >>> [image: Screenshot_20250124_113659.jpg] >>> >>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 8:01:23 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote: >>> >>> There are a couple of interesting changes to the Clem frames? First >>> looks to be the downtube shifter mounts with the domed fittings that look >>> to include barrel adjusters. The second is the scalloped seat stay caps, >>> which I love. I am just a bit bewildered by the handlebar change. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 10:42 AM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I like the colors and the upgrades. The shifters seem more Rivendellian >>> which is a good thing. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 3:28:05 AM UTC-5 John wrote: >>> >>> Pre-order page is up with pics of the complete Clems. >>> >>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-completes-2025 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, January 11, 2025 at 11:24:33 AM UTC-6 schralp wrote: >>> >>> I am for sure since I lost everything including my beloved platy in the >>> firestorm. >>> >>> -Bill >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 8:20 AM Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> So beyond the questionable replacement of the Tosco bars with the Billie >>> bars this is probably (and by probably I mean it pretty much definitely is) >>> the absolute best stock Clem build they have offered so far. Silver hubs, >>> great tires, silver shifters....totally stacked. 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