Hi Jay...great question....I do not keep any stack heights that high from
the saddle, but something you may want to try.....first, loosen up the stem
at the bars and rotate the bars so that the brifters "feel right". It may
look ugly, the drops pointed too far down, etc., but try it....then, if
that's a no go, a shorter stem, or a negative rise (flop the stem downward)
might be of value. I always measure my different bikes by getting the
length measurement from the "Goldilocks" bike, center of the saddle, where
the seat post WOULD intersect the saddle, to the center or tops of the
hoods. Also, check from the center of the stem, (the gap between the face
plate) and the same center of the saddle. Those numbers are very handy and
enlightening. Eyeballs aren't always that helpful...the trusty measuring
tape tells no lies.  Best of luck finding comfort bliss!

JohnRobertWilliams
Traverse City, MI
(waiting for the snow to melt and the wind chill to get above 30)

On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 6:22 PM Jay <[email protected]> wrote:

> This isn't specific to a Rivendell bike, but I'm sure the conversation can
> be applied to them, so hope you don't mind...
>
> In addition to my Roadini, I have a Salsa Fargo.  I had it for a year
> before I got the Roadini, the Roadini replaced my road bike (that is now
> the dedicated bike on the smart trainer, which I ride as little as
> possible!).
>
> I've had on-and-off upper body discomfort on the Fargo, and I think it's
> due to the high stack height.  I'm using a 55mm Redshift stem on the Fargo
> right now, as low as it can go on the steerer tube (thin spacer below).  I
> have drop bars on it (same drops as on the Roadini).  The hoods are nearly
> 2cm higher than the saddle vs. the Roadini (Roadini around 1cm higher,
> Fargo around 3cm higher).  Roadini feels just perfect, Fargo feels like I'm
> lifting my shoulders up to place my hands on the hoods.  And my hands on
> the hoods is not not comfortable.  I've now tried two different brifters,
> different positions on the bars, and the bars rotated down and up all to no
> solution.
>
> Does anyone have their hoods 3cm+ higher than their saddle and if so, is
> this comfortable for you?  We're all different and I'm sure some like the
> bars (hoods) much lower than the saddle, some level, some higher; but I see
> a diminishing return with the hoods too high.
>
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