My stem length (Nitto technomic) is 8cm on Sam. I'd get a shorter stem if I 
didn't mind the hassle of unwrapping bar tape et al. Rivendells have such 
long top tubes, that a short stem is necessary for me to achieve comfort. 
Originally, the bike was spec'd with a 10cm, for instance, which didn't 
allow for any bending of the elbows when on the hoods.

John
Oregon

On Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 5:56:58 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> Rivbike has a stem comparison page 
> <https://www.rivbike.com/pages/nitto-stem-comparison> that starts, *"We 
> get asked a lot (once a week or so) how much higher this stem can put the 
> bars compared to that stem."* Height? Great, but I'm looking for guidance 
> on stem reach, specifically with the Nitto Noodle. The copy for the new 
> Charlie 
> H. Gallop frame <https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-charlie-gallop> 
> says, *"they’re good with drops and stubby (5cm to 6cm) stems, too. [...] 
> Personally, most of us here who ride drops at all, now ride them with 
> stubby stems."* But I'm curious how much that is specific to the Gallop 
> vs. standard guidance for stem reach with drop bars. Looking at Blue Lug 
> builds with the Noodle 
> <https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/?post_type=post&s=nitto-mod177-noodle-bar-silver>,
>  
> they list the stem type but usually don't specify the reach. (But most 
> don't look very stubby to me.) And, for good measure, I also found a Lovely 
> Bicycle post 
> <https://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/10/its-not-length-of-your-stem-its-what.html>
>  
> where she says, *"For most male cyclists I know, a stem length of 
> 110-130mm seems to be the desirable range, with anything shorter considered 
> suboptimal, if not outright weird,"* and she bucks the trend by going 
> with a 8cm stem reach, albeit not with a Noodle. 
>
> What say you? I know 'preferred' reach will vary by bike and rider and 
> will be impacted by head tube angle and stem height and and and... but... *Is 
> there a reach that generally works well for most bikes and most riders with 
> the Noodle? *Thank you
>

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