All bikes are good!  I see 'us' as the enlightened ones, who see the value 
in a certain type of bike for a less specific situation than pro cycling. 
 I'm not here to convince some bloke in town about why he should ditch his 
snazzy road bike, as long as he is polite on the road, we're family.

What tipped me off was when it said 31mm tires and I recalled they had that 
size.  If he would have said 30mm, or 32mm, I may not have connected it to 
April fools day.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 3:56:00 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I have learned not to denigrate any form of cycling. I will never be as 
> fast as a racer, will never commute more miles than some, will never get 
> the most groceries each month with my bicycle. It isn't really about being 
> the best is it? Ride because you enjoying riding. Whether it be emulating 
> your favorite racer, cycling to get to work or school, or just for fun or 
> exercise. Who was it that said Just Ride. ;-)
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 3:42:21 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> April Fool's joke aside, I'm not sure why the OP is so against racing 
>> bikes. No one is forcing anyone to ride anything. You can get a super 
>> functional hybrid with an upright position and good tire clearance for 
>> <$500. Or you can buy pro level gear and live your daydreams without 
>> mortgaging your house. Try doing this in motorsports...it's not possible.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 12:35 PM Doug Williams <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, most likely April 1st. But that doesn't change the fact that race 
>>> bikes are useless to real people. In times of old, you had to do your own 
>>> repairs during a race. If racers were required to do their own repairs and 
>>> to start and finish on the same bike, we would all be riding USEFUL and 
>>> reliable bikes instead of single purpose race bikes when we go to the 
>>> grocery store.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 9:28:14 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (April) 1st of all, I'm betting that you got trolled. More importantly, 
>>>> riding a bike quickly around a paved loop to and from your door, (H/T 
>>>> Maynard Hershon, "roadies ride from the door",) just for fun and fitness 
>>>> and because you can, is not a less legitimate use of a bicycle than riding 
>>>> one to and from work, or the grocery store. Not every bike has to be 
>>>> "useful."
>>>>
>>>> And as to "carbon is unsafe," it's simply not true, as shown by the 
>>>> number of bonded carbon Treks that are still ridden regularly three 
>>>> decades 
>>>> after they were made. And that includes the mountain bikes, which 
>>>> presumably got ridden hard and crashed a lot... that's what happens to 
>>>> mountain bikes. I've rarely seen any carbon frame break in a crash that 
>>>> wouldn't have broken a metal bike, and the rider would have been equally 
>>>> screwed either way. I don't ride carbon bikes because I don't care for the 
>>>> way they feel, not because I think that they're unsafe. They're not, and I 
>>>> don't.
>>>>
>>>> And, if there were no barriers to owning all the bikes we want, I bet 
>>>> that most of us here would have at least one lightweight, modernish, 
>>>> go-fast bike. Mine would probably be steel or titanium, but that's just 
>>>> because I prefer the way that they ride. Every carbon bike Ive ever owned 
>>>> has been weirdly feel-less. All of the aluminum ones have been too stiff 
>>>> for my taste... I like a bit of bend in the bottom bracket. (And I'd 
>>>> really 
>>>> like a Vitus 979... blue anodized, please.)
>>>>
>>>> --Shannon
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 9:05:48 AM UTC-7 Bruce Byker James wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2025-04-01 at 12.02.06 PM.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 11:55:33 AM UTC-4 Doug Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is why bicycle racing is completely irrelevant to people who 
>>>>>> actually use their bike for transportation. For a long time, I have been 
>>>>>> saying that race bicycle design is so divorced from real world useful 
>>>>>> bicycling as to be completely irrelevant. Why on earth would anyone buy 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> race bike and use it for their commute or for..well, anything except a 
>>>>>> professional race while being followed by a motorized maintenance crew 
>>>>>> carrying several backup race bikes?  A carbon fiber race bike is 
>>>>>> fragile, 
>>>>>> dangerous, and completely unsuitable for any real world purpose. For 
>>>>>> quite 
>>>>>> some time, the scientific consensus has been that wider tires are safer, 
>>>>>> more reliable, and more comfortable. Now that science is equally clear 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> wide tires are FASTER on real world roads, the reaction has been 
>>>>>> to...ban 
>>>>>> tires wider than 31mm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/uci-limits-road-bike-tires-to-31-mm/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously, the bicycling community needs to wake up and stop 
>>>>>> idolizing racers, race bikes, and the companies that promote them. These 
>>>>>> people are working to promote bikes that are terrible for any useful 
>>>>>> transportation purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
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