I would choose the Hillborne for a slighty larger tire with fenders. I 
would choose the Homer for a wider selection of drop bar levers. 

I also heard your local shop has Sam's in 57 and 60, and a Homer in 58... ;)

On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 5:49:49 PM UTC-6 ttoshi wrote:

> I've heard it said that the Homer and HIllborne ride equivalently, so 
> there might be slight convenience factors (like brakes mentioned before) 
> and tire width factors that come into play. 
>
> In my case, I have a Homer--old school Waterford? 650b right after the 
> "Saluki". Anyhow, the max width with fenders is 38 mm. That's good for 
> Parimoto or Grand Bois Ecureuil. I rode a 600k on my Homer with the 
> Parimoto, but today I probably would go for the GB Ecureuil.
>
> Many people like 650b x 42 mm, which I believe the Sam H would fit with 
> fenders.
>
> Personally, I chose the Homer, because it's slightly more road-bikish than 
> the Sam, but being able to ride 650b x 42mm Hetre/Babyshoe pass tires might 
> sway me toward the Sam...
>
> Toshi
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 1:16 PM Ron Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I owned both. Sold the Homer, kept the Hillborne. IMHO The Hillborne is 
>> more versatile because it takes cantilever or V brakes, is a hair more 
>> stout, and personal preference, doesn't have ridiculously long chainstays.
>>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2025, 12:06 PM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "however, none of those are available to me right now"
>>>
>>> In what way is the Homer and Hillborne available to you right now?  Are 
>>> you looking at second-hand opportunities?  If so, post the links so we can 
>>> look them over?  Are you referring to the current Homer pre-sale as 
>>> "available to you right now"?  
>>>
>>> What are the kinds of things that you consider "better" about a "better 
>>> bike for Randonneuring". Better because it is faster?  Better because it is 
>>> more reliable?  Better because it is more comfortable for 1200k brevets?  
>>> Better because it can carry more stuff?  Better because it's easier to 
>>> transport to Paris for PBP2027?  
>>>
>>> In my experience I think most randonneurs fall into one of three 
>>> categories:
>>>
>>> 1. they rando on a road bike
>>> 2. they rando on a traditional BQ historical reenactment bike
>>> 3. they rando on their favorite bike
>>>
>>> Some randonneurs are open to all three experiences.  I'm certainly all 
>>> three.  Because I'm all three, there is no such thing as a better or best 
>>> bike for randonneuring.  There's probably a number of worse bikes for 
>>> randonneuring, but neither the Homer nor the Hillborne is an objectively 
>>> bad bike for randonneuring.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Homer or Hillborne? Which Would Be Better For Randonneuring?
>>>> I am aware there are past Models that would be better suited, or even 
>>>> current models like the Roadini; however, none of those are available to 
>>>> me 
>>>> right now. Curious what the Thoughts of the Owners Bunch are. 
>>>>
>>>> Currently I do have an Appaloosa, My favorite bike of all time. But I 
>>>> want to keep it set up as a county bike. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.   
>>>>
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