Speaking of Cazaderos, can anyone say how well these seem to roll compared to similar Rene Herse knobbies — I think that the Oracle Ridge is the closest in width.
Aside: the ORs are lovely tires: roll very well indeed on pavement, and corner like road tires, at least on my Matthews “road bike for dirt.” Alas, they don’t set up well tubeless and I replaced them with 53 mm Thunderburts, which are very nice but don’t roll quite as freely and don’t corner as seamlessly on pavement — very small deficiencies compared to the ORs but noticeable nonetheless. BUT! The TBs set up tubeless impeccably; I seated them with a skinny road pump and they held 40-50 psi (in real world riding, 18 psi) even before I put sealant in. On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 7:12 AM R Olson <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Brenton. I just got and built up a newer 60cm Sam with canti's > and was curious about the max size myself. I put on Schwalbe Marathon > Greengaurds labelled at 50mm, about 47mm actual and they fit fine (mounted > on Atlas and Cliffhanger rims - I tried on two sets of wheels with the same > results). I actually have a bit more clearance than you show in your > pics. I was wondering if the larger Cadezaros would fit with the knobs. > Good to know. > > On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 10:57:06 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > >> There’s all kinds of factors at play. The 50mm gravelkings might have >> been 50mm actual and yeah that could definitely rub with some torque. Rim >> width makes a difference also. I’m 185lbs and I haven’t had any rubbing yet >> despite some spirited riding on these tires’ maiden voyage. The cazadero at >> the widest point (the knobs) was a hair under 47mm. The rock and road 48mm >> measure 50mm according to Bruce Gordon website, so those might also be >> sketchy. I had a friend with a canti Sam who said his 48mm Rene herse knobs >> rubbed in the rear. The tires I got were $50 for a pair so it felt like a >> good price to experiment with. >> >> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 9:49:13 PM UTC-7 J wrote: >> >>> On my 2010-11 size 60 Sam H, size 50mm gravel king SK spun freely with >>> the bike in the stand but rubbed the fork blades when actually riding, >>> especially leaning into a turn. I remember experimenting with pressure but >>> it did not help. I'm always about 170lbs and wondered if a lighter rider >>> might've lessened tire deformation. I'm no expert >>> >>> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 8:13:10 PM UTC-4 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> For anyone wondering. For anyone who likes to fill their frame to the >>>> point of irresponsibility. >>>> >>>> I found a very low priced set of like-new Soma Cazadero 50s and mounted >>>> em up. Measure 47mm actual on Velocity Atlas rims. I have a 2017 non-canti >>>> Sam. >>>> >>>> Clearance is minimal, but I've seen tighter. It's tighter in the rear >>>> at the seat stay than anywhere up front. Probably the absolute max I would >>>> run. They ride great, I had 42s and loved them, I wish they would make a >>>> 45/47. >>>> >>>> [image: IMG_6622.JPG] >>>> [image: IMG_6625.JPG] >>>> [image: IMG_6623.JPG] >>>> >>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/79c50347-d25e-4b96-a8e8-43493f9b1bafn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/79c50347-d25e-4b96-a8e8-43493f9b1bafn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs2OyFMXnp8JSjDTqdWaVA63N42QX38Tb%3Dw1XKYoOK52g%40mail.gmail.com.
