Thanks for the reply. I'm kind of agnostic on indexed vs. friction. My goal 
is to get to an integrated shifter/brake lever solution in as few steps as 
possible, which suggests an indexed system. I'd also like to clean up the 
cockpit as much as possible.

 The Tektro levers I'm currently running are the RL341s, which seem to be 
short pull aren't actually compatible with my brakes. I have pretty big 
hands and, ergonomically, these aren't great anyway. They're just what I 
had around when I went to a drop bar.  

If I get almost any brifter, it seems I could use a travel agent or 
similar, but I'm looking to streamline and simplify. As much as I like the 
form and function of the Paul brakes, if they are the limiting factor, it 
might be time for a change. Maybe a set of Shimano V-brakes and brifters 
would be simplest?

On Tuesday, July 8, 2025 at 6:52:19 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Jeff, Indexed or friction ? 
> Tektro makes long pull drop bar brake levers, the RL520 I believe is the 
> model. Tektro levers have the model designation often on the underside of 
> the levers themselves.  There aren't any long pull indexed brifters. For 
> shifting you could use say either a Dia-Compe ENE stem mounted shift mount 
> for DT levers or even their wing mounted shifters. What sets their stem 
> mount is that the position of the cable angle is adjustable. 
> https://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/ene-stem-mount-shifter/
> https://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/ene-wing-shifter/
>
> Then there's these levers with DT shift mounts. Short pull only. 
> https://www.gevenalle.com/shifters/
>
> DT shifters though off the most crisp shifting from my experiece, night 
> and day difference from bar top shifters and their long housed cable run 
> with their inherent additional friction.
>
>
> On Monday, July 7, 2025 at 4:51:42 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> After some very fun gravel rides on my Hillborne, I am considering a 
>> change from bar ends to brifters but it seems like I am running into 
>> compatibility issues at every turn. I have made many changes to this bike 
>> since I purchased it secondhand and finally feel that I'm coming to some 
>> conclusions. 
>>
>> I'm a drop bar devotee (Crust Shaka). The stock Silver 38/24 cranks are 
>> great.  Currently running a Microshift FD and a Deore 9-spd RD. The brakes 
>> are Paul Motolites, which I like very much.  I have old Dura Ace bar end 
>> shifters and some kind of Tektro levers, which are prbly not a good match 
>> for the Pauls...very squishy and perhaps not long pull? 
>>
>> I want to somehow unify the drivetrain and stop doing things by half 
>> measure. I'd like to keep the brakes but feel like everything else could be 
>> changed up.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions. 
>>
>

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